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Author Topic: The Malleus Maleficarum  (Read 1808 times)

Dark Midnight

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The Malleus Maleficarum
« on: July 07, 2011, 03:35:56 am »
I truly, truly hate this book. I do. It's not the writing style or format that bothers me- I mean, it was written in the late 1400's, so what else can you expect? It's the content. It's absolutely horrific.

My old HP recommended it as she knew I was very interested in the history of Witchcraft and unfortunately the 'Hammer of Witches' is an integeral part of that history. She also told me to have a pillow (so I can hit something), tissues (something to wipe up the tears) and comfort food (to help me feel better). She wasn't wrong.

Has anyone else actually read this through? What is your opinion? Am I alone in hating it?
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Re: The Malleus Maleficarum
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2011, 08:06:43 am »
Quote from: Dark Midnight;2445
Has anyone else actually read this through? What is your opinion? Am I alone in hating it?


I don't hate the book so much as I do the authors. The authors apparently forged or misrepresented the various approvals of the University of Cologne and the Pope. The latter's office apparently never even saw the book before publication. The university actually condemned the book for contradicting Catholic teaching on demons. With the book was used a lot by secular witch hunters and secular courts, the Spanish Inquisition cautioned against its use.
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Re: The Malleus Maleficarum
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2011, 10:15:23 am »
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I don't hate the book so much as I do the authors. The authors apparently forged or misrepresented the various approvals of the University of Cologne and the Pope. The latter's office apparently never even saw the book before publication. The university actually condemned the book for contradicting Catholic teaching on demons. With the book was used a lot by secular witch hunters and secular courts, the Spanish Inquisition cautioned against its use.

 
Oh, I knew that they forged the Papal Bull condoning it. Didn't stop the book being used though, unfortunately.
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Re: The Malleus Maleficarum
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2011, 05:21:21 pm »
Quote from: Dark Midnight;2445

Has anyone else actually read this through? What is your opinion? Am I alone in hating it?


Actually, I have it.

And I have read through great portions of it.
It would be too much to claim, that I remember all of it now, it's some time ago... like... 25 years? *oh my*

But one thing is clear, it is a misogynistic inflammatory pamphlet.

I'd have to re-read it to extract the parts of folk magic, folk lore and superstition that were used in it. I guess there's enough of it there, but I don't feel like doing this in the near future. :p

So, well I am not quite hating it, but it leaves a sick feeling behind.
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That’s what people never really understood.….Things had to balance.
You couldn’t set out to be a good witch or a bad witch. It never worked out for long.
All you could try to be was a witch, as hard as you could.\'
Terry Pratchett \'Lords and Ladies\'

Confuzzled and proud. :p

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Re: The Malleus Maleficarum
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2011, 02:00:18 am »
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I'd have to re-read it to extract the parts of folk magic, folk lore and superstition that were used in it. I guess there's enough of it there, but I don't feel like doing this in the near future. :p

 
If one is interested in the lore and magic found in books like this, one would do well to have a look at Reginald Scot's A Discoverie of Witches. It was a diatribe against the witch craze, arguing against the existence of witches and the supernatural, but it contains material from several grimoires popularly used at the time, as well as many guides to slight-of-hand tricks. The book actually became very popular among cunning folk for its comprehensive information, despite the fact that the author was denouncing them as charlatans and deluded women. ;)

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Re: The Malleus Maleficarum
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2011, 04:38:45 am »
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The book actually became very popular among cunning folk for its comprehensive information, despite the fact that the author was denouncing them as charlatans and deluded women. ;)

 
:D
Well, not quite what he intended. *lol*

Thanks, found the text online, will check. :)
\'You had to repay, good or bad. There was more than one type of obligation.
That’s what people never really understood.….Things had to balance.
You couldn’t set out to be a good witch or a bad witch. It never worked out for long.
All you could try to be was a witch, as hard as you could.\'
Terry Pratchett \'Lords and Ladies\'

Confuzzled and proud. :p

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