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Author Topic: Flower Folklore/symbolism  (Read 2144 times)

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Flower Folklore/symbolism
« on: August 09, 2015, 07:23:18 pm »
hey, I'm looking for reliable books and websites on flower folklore and/or symbolism. I would much prefer academic/academic leaning with sources.

I'm totally fine with stuff that talks about lore that's not really old as long as it at acknowledges that


thanks
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Re: Flower Folklore/symbolism
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2015, 10:09:56 am »
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hey, I'm looking for reliable books and websites on flower folklore and/or symbolism. I would much prefer academic/academic leaning with sources.

I'm totally fine with stuff that talks about lore that's not really old as long as it at acknowledges that

 
I'm afraid the only thing I can think of is http://www.languageofflowers.com which is specifically about the meanings ascribed to flowers when they're in bouquets.
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Re: Flower Folklore/symbolism
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2015, 11:09:45 am »
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hey, I'm looking for reliable books and websites on flower folklore and/or symbolism. I would much prefer academic/academic leaning with sources.

I'm totally fine with stuff that talks about lore that's not really old as long as it at acknowledges that


thanks


The two volume Compendium of Symbolic and Ritual Plants in Europe by Marcel De Cleene and Marie Claire Lejeune. They are rather expensive to purchase, but you might luck into finding them at a large library?
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Re: Flower Folklore/symbolism
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2015, 12:33:13 pm »
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I'm afraid the only thing I can think of is http://www.languageofflowers.com which is specifically about the meanings ascribed to flowers when they're in bouquets.

 
That web site seems a bit...off? to me. BUT they do have a bibliography so thank you!
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Re: Flower Folklore/symbolism
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2015, 12:33:42 pm »
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The two volume Compendium of Symbolic and Ritual Plants in Europe by Marcel De Cleene and Marie Claire Lejeune. They are rather expensive to purchase, but you might luck into finding them at a large library?

 
Thank you
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Re: Flower Folklore/symbolism
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2015, 07:55:19 pm »
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That web site seems a bit...off? to me. BUT they do have a bibliography so thank you!

 
Oh, and several of their sources are actual mid-19th-century books on the subject, too. So, it's the most reliable resource on the topic that I've yet seen - there's a lot of patch-and-fill and just plain pull it out of one's arse on the topic... and I've strong suspicions that the Victorian iteration was similarly patched together and pulled out of arses.

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Re: Flower Folklore/symbolism
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2015, 12:55:33 pm »
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hey, I'm looking for reliable books and websites on flower folklore and/or symbolism. I would much prefer academic/academic leaning with sources.

I'm totally fine with stuff that talks about lore that's not really old as long as it at acknowledges that


thanks

 
Do you have access to any databases like JSTOR? I could recommend some articles about flowers and flower symbolism. In fact I have several documents in my possession. I can think of about 4 or 5 articles that might interest you.

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Re: Flower Folklore/symbolism
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2015, 03:29:54 pm »
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Do you have access to any databases like JSTOR? I could recommend some articles about flowers and flower symbolism. In fact I have several documents in my possession. I can think of about 4 or 5 articles that might interest you.

 
Alas, no
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2015, 07:23:36 am »
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Alas, no

 
Well, you might still be able to find some on Google Scholar or perhaps at your local library anyway.

1): 'Flower Mountain: Concepts of Life, Beauty, and Paradise among the Classic Maya' by   Karl A. Taube.
2) 'Flowery Heaven: The Aesthetics of Paradise in Nahuatl Devotional Literature' by Louise M. Burkhart.
3) 'The Flower World in Material Culture: An Iconographic Complex in the Southwest and Mesoamerica' by Kelly Hays-Gilpin and Jane H. Hill.
4) 'Concept of the Garden in Pre-Hispanic Mexico' by Patrizia Granziera.
5) 'Late Classic Maya Water Management and Community Organization at Copan, Honduras' by Karla L. Davis-Salazar.

If you can't find them directly you could always ask a family member or a friend who is at Uni to get you these articles.

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Re: Flower Folklore/symbolism
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2015, 08:34:37 pm »
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hey, I'm looking for reliable books and websites on flower folklore and/or symbolism.

I haven't read it myself, but this book was recommended to me:

Seven Flowers: And How They Shaped Our World https://www.amazon.com/dp/1468308173/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_Hbs1vbWADQ4J1
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2015, 12:42:58 pm »
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hey, I'm looking for reliable books and websites on flower folklore and/or symbolism. I would much prefer academic/academic leaning with sources.

I'm totally fine with stuff that talks about lore that's not really old as long as it at acknowledges that


thanks

 
What exactly are you looking for? Because this could go a couple different ways. :)

If you're looking for broad-based folklore/historical plant lore, I and others made recommendations in this thread:

http://www.ecauldron.net/forum/index.php?topic=2823.0

If you're looking specifically for the Victorian language of flowers, there's information here:

http://www.proflowers.com/blog/floriography-language-flowers-victorian-era

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Re: Flower Folklore/symbolism
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2015, 03:33:01 pm »
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Well, you might still be able to find some on Google Scholar or perhaps at your local library anyway.

1): 'Flower Mountain: Concepts of Life, Beauty, and Paradise among the Classic Maya' by   Karl A. Taube.
2) 'Flowery Heaven: The Aesthetics of Paradise in Nahuatl Devotional Literature' by Louise M. Burkhart.
3) 'The Flower World in Material Culture: An Iconographic Complex in the Southwest and Mesoamerica' by Kelly Hays-Gilpin and Jane H. Hill.
4) 'Concept of the Garden in Pre-Hispanic Mexico' by Patrizia Granziera.
5) 'Late Classic Maya Water Management and Community Organization at Copan, Honduras' by Karla L. Davis-Salazar.

If you can't find them directly you could always ask a family member or a friend who is at Uni to get you these articles.

 
Thank you for this, I'll see if I can get access to them
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2015, 03:33:41 pm »
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What exactly are you looking for? Because this could go a couple different ways. :)

If you're looking for broad-based folklore/historical plant lore, I and others made recommendations in this thread:

http://www.ecauldron.net/forum/index.php?topic=2823.0

If you're looking specifically for the Victorian language of flowers, there's information here:

http://www.proflowers.com/blog/floriography-language-flowers-victorian-era

 
both of these are really useful. Thank you
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2015, 08:09:58 pm »
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hey, I'm looking for reliable books and websites on flower folklore and/or symbolism. I would much prefer academic/academic leaning with sources.

 
The Wildflower Center at the University of Texas is a phenomenal resource here in Austin. Their website has an excellent plant database (though, it doesn't have symbology/lore it does have plenty of information on where the flower is native to, when it blooms, other regional names, etc) and all kinds of other information. If you ever find yourself in the area, it's well worth a visit!  

They do have a few well-researched documents on legends and lore of Texas wildflowers that also have some fantastic sources cited that you might find useful (and will lead beyond just Texas-native plants):
http://www.wildflower.org/youthactivities/legends_folkore_part1.pdf
http://www.wildflower.org/youthactivities/legends_folkore_part2.pdf

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