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Author Topic: Dealing with subjective rules  (Read 10316 times)

Juniperberry

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Re: Dealing with subjective rules
« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2015, 11:42:47 pm »
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I apologize. You explained your feelings on the matter and I'm getting pushy now.  In respect (no pun intended) your stand on the matter and won't press it anymore.
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Re: Dealing with subjective rules
« Reply #46 on: April 06, 2015, 11:54:34 am »
Quote from: Juniperberry;173783
Because often times newbies *do* react just as negatively when someone corrects them, as you pointed out. It would be lovely if there were a way to also protect our senior members, who *are* trying to be helpful, who are putting in their own time, from being disrespected in a way they don't deserve. Rewording a rule to include respect is essentially telling new members that hey "if you want to participate here, you will respect this space." If newbies aren't willing to follow that rule, then are they really the type of members we want here?

 
Personally, I'm not at all interested in asserting something that I guarantee will be taken by that sort of person as "You must respect the authority of the in-crowd".

How do I know that that's how people will take it?

Because we get people accusing us of having that expectation anyway, and throwing all kinds of vitriol at both staff and long-term members because of it.

I guarantee that a "respect this space" rule will not improve that at all.  I suspect it will make it worse.  And since that's one of the major reasons that I second-guess myself about posting at times I'm personally absolutely opposed to anything that will back up some people's willingness to insult the volunteer work that the long-term members put in to make this a place with actual content worth reading.

It's bad enough wondering whether a factual correction or a "You know, this looks like that to some people" or a "Have you considered" will bring in the circling vultures who have nothing to contribute other than "Why are you so mean to people who don't adhere to your groupthink?" right now.
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