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Re: Problems with Heathenry
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2018, 02:44:38 am »
Celtic, Baltic and Finnish traditions, in contrast, are associated with groups that  were marginalized within Europe, and to the extent that they have been associated with nationalism, it is more of the defensive, "stop fucking with us" nationalism rather than the imperialistic "we will crush everyone who isn't us" type of nationalism.
Quite. Whereas German nationalism came to be driven by Prussian militarism and its colonial ambitions, but at the same time started with the defensiveness that came with Germany being a European battleground for ten centuries, in particularly in being Napoleon's personal chessboard.
As Darkhawk's post goes into more detail about, that nationalism fueled various proto-neo-pagan movements like Guido von Lists' Ariosophy and Wotanism. It's an awkward thing where, yeah, Germanic neopaganism is identifiably rooted in the esoteric side of 19th-century ethnic nationalism. But it has been moving past that, which is good. I'm just skeptical that it can shed itself entirely of the specter of volkisch racism. Not that such a thing should stop anyone from gravitating, in good faith and with an open and tolerant mind, towards Heathenry.


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