20 20 Vision years ahead

I have started a folder on this subject ready for the new year I’ve only added a few ideas and is an on going project my spells so far are.

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I think it is a very important year ahead and I’m preparing myself for the time that said any input of your own you would like to contribute.

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Hello Everyone

Hello! My name is Ember, 24 years old and I’m relatively new to Wicca, and paganism in general. While I prefer a solitary path (for the moment, I wish to form a private relationship with the God and the Goddess) I also value the importance of seeking wisdom from others.

I was raised roman catholic, but after years upon years of not getting it, having differing beliefs, and being “at odds” with it, I’ve decided to follow a path that I feel has called to me for years

In the week that I’ve studied and thought (I’ve begun by reading Wicca, A Guide for the Solitary Practitioner) I’ve found myself more spiritually fulfilled than I have in ages. I’m taking it slow, eschewing rituals and magic for the moment to attune to the divine, learning how to slow myself down and focus on the wonder of nature, and in general, follow a gentle tempo of discovery and wonder, as opposed to diving right in.

I have many questions of course, and while I’m unsure if the solitary path is still controversial, I’m excited to learn more about myself, our world, the Divines, and continuing to develop a relationship in a way I have never felt before

At the risk of sounding like a newbie, but in the most honest of intentions, blessed be, and I hope I get to know many of you on this so far wonderful journey

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Did you leave Christianity for Paganism?

I’m not sure what my path will be yet, but I deconverted from Christianity about 4 years ago. I’m interested in hearing the story of how you became pagan when you were raised or were Christian—why you left Christianity and how you found Paganism and what attracted it to you.
For me, I left because I re-read the Bible and it had too many anti-scientific fact (the Creation story) and morally reprehensible teachings (like the whole anti-gay thing). The process of leaving took a year, and it wasn’t easy. I’m interested in how other people became Pagan (of whatever variety). I’d love to hear your story if you’re willing to share it.

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Technoology, Civilization, and Paganism

I did a cursory search for Technopaganism but did not turn anything up that was recent. I am interested to know how one reconciles Technology, Science, Civilization and the Built Environment with Paganisms. The Neo-Pagan focus on Nature as Sacred seems to be a prime characteristic of most Paganisms. How do we add Technology and Built Civilization to that schema?

I bring the subject up because even though I consider myself a type of Pagan, I am not that big a Nature buff. I do not camp much, and don’t hunt or fish. I do view Nature as Sacred and as the Source of Life, but I am much more of a City Man than a Nature Person. There are aspects of Nature that are particularly important to me, but the City is my first focus usually.

I love Museums, Libraries, Concert Halls, Theatres, Restaurants, Sports Arenas, Gymnasia, Colleges and Universities. I love the type of Life that revolves around all of these things. I will visit the City Park or go down to the River if I feel a need to connect with Nature, which I sometimes do, but my default mode is City Mode.

So, for this Urban and Tech/Built World focus, I have had a long association with Athena, who seems to me to be the best Deity to represent this sort of City Life. I also like to invoke Dionysus when indulging in food, drink, or enjoying arts and festivals. I am part of the Celtic Diaspora, and Celtic Mythology is a big component of my spirituality, but I consider myself a Celt in the City. I do think that I want to study and learn more about Hellenic Paganism, especially because of how the Ancient Greeks focused on the Polis, City Life, and associated Culture.

Anyway, I would be interested in what anybody might think of Technopaganism and Urban approaches to various Paganism. To me, a City is a Jewel set in Nature, the center of much Human Life, and so is Sacred to me.

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Working up to a project

This is about projects that you want to accomplish, but need to develop skills for first. I could use some advice and/or moral support.

My particular project is this: on a recent trip I picked up a book on a topic I’m highly interested in, pre-christian and nature-worshiping practices in Switzerland. The title of it is Mythologische Lanschaft Schweiz, and there you see the challenge. I do speak German, but not at the academic level.

Besides getting a good dictionary app, my rough plan is to work up to it using other German-language books I have around. I think I’ll probably have to actually make out a schedule. I do have some education background so I know a bit about creating a lesson plan, but … this is going to be a long project. Months and possibly years. Part of me is going *AAAARGH* and running in circles.

Has anyone else here done anything similar? Any tips or anecdotes are welcome.

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Dark Moon / Dark of the moon / New moon

My friend, who comes from a rather Wiccan sort of a background, introduced me to one version of the Charge of the Dark Goddess, but it didn’t really resonate with me so I came up with my own ‘invocation’ type thing (I guess you’d call it) and thought I’d share it here:-

“At this time of the Dark Moon
I ask that my worries, fears and anxieties
be leached away, to evaporate in the deep darkness.
I strive to purge my soul of these negative influences, these energy drains.
At this time of the Dark Moon
I ask that I be granted daily peace, calm and serenity
and grant me also restful sleep each night.
I seek to instill a well of healing within myself, for fortitude in the face of future challenges.
At this time of the New Moon
I ask that I be granted the inspiration
to explore that side of myself which has resided in shadows.
I strive for spiritual development.
At this time of the New Moon I give my thanks to the universe,
for all that I have and for all that I hope to gain.”

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Positive, Healing Energy for My Family

Yesterday, I got the phone call that my paternal grandfather fell (recently) and cracked two of his thoracic vertebrae. After waiting a few days for the scan results, we found out that he may have cancer of the bone, lung, and prostate. As of this writing, he is currently in the ambulance going to the hospital.
If you could reach out to your deities or powers, or if you can simply include him in his prayers, I’d greatly appreciate it. We all need some positivity at the moment.

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My current relationship to the church and christo-paganism/eclecticism

I originally wrote this post to reply to the revived thread on Christo-paganism, but after writing it, I felt like it might be too far from the original topic, so I am taking the post to a new thread.  I just wanted to muse on my currently ambiguous relationship to the church.

I am currently working out a via media between my neo-paganism and my Christianity.  I similarly relate to the trinity as the “God of gods,” as some Christopagans do, and I find comfort in the psalms that use this title.  I have had long discussions with a Catholic friend about how to go about reconciling the polytheistic aspects still found in the Hebrew Bible with monotheistic thought and live with a healthy balance there.  For me this is easiest with a Catholic approach, and I use the term “Catholic” broadly to include the Orthodox and Eastern Catholics as well.  Not all Catholics are Roman.

Like any good Anglican, I am going through certain of my prayers and revising them to be susceptible to multiple interpretations, either in a more neo-pagan/pantheist direction or a Christian one.  In this way I am able to accommodate uncertainty and various levels of belief and commitment.  Most of the prayers are already like this.  Anglicanism, particularly Anglo-Catholicism, has deeply influenced my thinking, rituals, and approach to my private spirituality.

The rites are very similar to the structure of the mass in the 1928 (American edition of the) Book of Common Prayer, and with careful work, as I mentioned, I am increasingly able to interpret the prayers on multiple levels so that I am able to gravitate toward the interpretation I need at the time and accommodate my general uncertainties.

I am working out my relationship with the wider Church, to both Anglicanism and Catholicism.  Due to my work schedule I have not been able to make it to the eucharist (mass) in my Anglican parish, although I discovered that a new priest in the Catholic Church has brought back the old rite Latin mass on Saturdays.  This is a near miracle.  I have been yelled at by a priest for even inquiring if he ever offered it.  Many people are hostile toward the old rite or even the new rite celebrated so as to resemble the old one, and even some of the old rite adherents associate it unfairly with their skewed perspectives on various groups of people they don’t like.

I remain canonically Roman Catholic, but I had taken refuge in Anglicanism once again after ill treatment by clergy and liturgies that were literally too painful for me to endure.  Enduring them, I was losing all faith in a numinous dimension to life and the church: there was certainly none of that present in these liturgies, and I entered into despair.  From now on I simply refuse to attend rites like that even if it’s offered on Sunday.  Arguably it is “gravely inconvenient” for me, as one canon puts it, and I am dispensed from the obligation should I wish to take such obligations seriously.

I was formed spiritually in liturgies that lifted me into the numinous.  There is a part of me that is a liturgical traditionalist, and I find the old liturgies much more conducive to my increasingly dual-faith spirituality, much more mysterious, connecting me with people through history.  I’m having to work out my relationship to the church now that the old rite is being offered once again.  But I still have a hard time with the scandals coming out of the wider church, and I will only give money to good causes in the church and never into the offering plate, especially once I read a news report that some of it is likely going to lobbyists that I don’t support, but I don’t feel comfortable going into the details about that on a public forum.

Christians can get hung up on what everyone else is believing, though, so I’m working through that, too.  When it comes down to it, according to one traditionalist perspective, only the anathemas are binding “infallibly,” and even then, there is much that is ambiguous about which councils are truly ecumenical and thus which anathemas truly binding, and if they are, will they always hold that status?  Some councils that were once accepted as ecumenical were later rejected (google “robber council ” or “Second Council of Ephesus”).

Only two councils are accepted by all Catholics and all branches of the Orthodox churches, so that leads to other disputes and further ambiguity as to what is truly binding.  And to violate an anathema, one would have to declare, with commitment and certainty, “I affirm (the condemned proposition) X.”  I don’t because I am perpetually uncertain about such matters and chalk them up to a mystery.  Much theological language, perhaps language in general, is ambiguous anyway.  For example, what does the ascension mean?  What does it mean for a body to enter into heaven, a non-local state rather than a place, according to many theologians?  To affirm such theology is to affirm it ambiguously.

So I measure my beliefs in terms of commitments and actions.  From what I’ve been taught in Anglicanism and Catholicism, doubts are not always contrary to faith, but can coexist with tension.  I don’t particularly like the approach to dogma I have outlined, not even this minimalist perspective, but I suppose I could live with it should I wish to retain my connection to Christianity.  It’s much easier for me to live with than Sola Scriptura or those long Lutheran confessions or the “creeping infallibility” of the neo-conservative faction of the church.

So that’s where I’m at right now regarding these matters.

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Superheroes, Comic Books, and Graphic Novels

I was wondering if anyone here is a Comic Book fan. I grew up on Comic Books, Marvel, DC, and Others. Mainly a Marvel Fan though. I learned to read from comics, then later to draw a bit also. It seems to me that modern Superheroes are similar to some myths. Superman and Hercules seem to have some things in common. Anyway, I was wondering if Superheroes and related Pop Culture stuff is relevant to anyone else.

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