The Cauldron: A Pagan Forum

Thanks, however I must mention that although I'm an initiated priest, I haven't reached 3rd degree yet. Every coven is different,  but in our line specifically that takes quite a while.

Ah. I was mistaken. I thought I remembered you stating that you had reached 3rd degree in your first coven.

Don't feel too bad, because SRW couldn't portray Wicca in that intro because she's not Wiccan. Anything you're able to read about Wicca is only a fraction of what it entails because it's traditionally an initiatory mystery tradition. Which flaws do you think it contains?

 

Well going on most of the sources I've looked into, it's just too watered down now. Also I question the 3-fold law and not intentionally harming people. I agree with that to some extent but sometimes harm needs to be done to get a point across, also just because a spell seems harmless doesn't mean that when the floodgates open that it stays that way. Also true magick is neither black or white, it's a mix.

Well going on most of the sources I've looked into, it's just too watered down now. Also I question the 3-fold law and not intentionally harming people. I agree with that to some extent but sometimes harm needs to be done to get a point across, also just because a spell seems harmless doesn't mean that when the floodgates open that it stays that way. Also true magick is neither black or white, it's a mix.

 
Find.

Better.

Sources.


Seriously. This is getting ridiculous.

If your takeaway from what you've been reading is that Wicca is watered down, then not only are the sources you've been consulting a steaming pile of crap* but you also might want to spend some time on refreshing your research skills. I'm not saying that to be mean, I'm saying it because it's not a skill people are born with and not one you can learn once and be done with it.

What I think you've got on your hands is a really bad case of confusing Neo-Wicca and Wicca. They are not really interchangeable and it's not just a matter of hair-splitting semantics. Amazingly enough, words mean things.


* Just because a book has nicely designed cover, is typeset well, and/or the author uses an authoritative tone doesn't make a source good. What's more, not all well-known authors are capable researchers. Some doesn't even do basic fact-checking.

Well going on most of the sources I've looked into, it's just too watered down now. Also I question the 3-fold law and not intentionally harming people. I agree with that to some extent but sometimes harm needs to be done to get a point across, also just because a spell seems harmless doesn't mean that when the floodgates open that it stays that way. Also true magick is neither black or white, it's a mix.

I don't think you want to be Wiccan, and as nobody's forcing you to be...I'd advise that you leave it alone instead of continue to try to make it into something that it's not.

There are better sources than the ones that you've looked into, but I think what you really want is magic powers that aren't bound to any moral code.

So, here's a link to a magic course that I think will suit you better.

Q. Which tradition of witchcraft does this course teach? Druidry, shamanism, voodoo, etc.?
A. This course is all-purpose. What is explained within is the skeletal core of energy manipulation, gathered from several faiths and stripped of the usual meanderings and religious trappings (although, belief in a soul is somewhat helpful). It’s left to you to decide where your religion fits in.

 
I hope that helps. Also, in my opinion magic is octarine.