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From this article that just appeared on the Order of Bards, Ovates, and Druids (OBOD) website this morning, written by Debra L. Lewis:

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Some say Druids from the Old World marked their travel here by use of the ancient Celtic tree language, Ogham. Others insist that evidence from the entire area of the plains, canyons, and deserts of the North American southwest point to the early native civilizations as author. The city of Springfield, 35 miles (56 km) north of the cave, takes advantage of the controversy and throws a festival twice a year during the equinox. The debate over who left these markings keeps the crowds coming. One thing for certain and as any Druid or neo-Druid can appreciate those parallax engravings, in conjunction with the sun's rays striking them, precisely mark the equinoxes.

The Druids-in-America hypothesis purports that people from the Old World explored the Arkansas River long before either Columbus or Ericson. This all seemed to start with an accomplished marine biologist from Harvard University, Dr. Barry Fell. He became increasingly interested in rock carvings. Without formal study in epigraphy or languages, he founded The Epigraphic Society in America and became an autodidactic authority on the art of deciphering ancient writings. His most popular books are extensively quoted and reproduced on the internet and follow the same theme that Europeans sailed to Middle America before Christ and in the Bronze Age.
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Re: Druids in Ancient America? - Ogham-Like Rock Etchings Found in Colorado
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2013, 01:21:52 pm »
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From this article that just appeared on the Order of Bards, Ovates, and Druids (OBOD) website this morning, written by Debra L. Lewis:


The basic problem with these theories is that the markings in question don't look like standard Ogham, unless you interpret them as markings from variant Ogham alphabets thought to have been created in the middle ages as ciphers. These variant forms are not found on any carvings in Ireland, they are found only in manuscripts listing all the cool codes you can play with based on Ogham. For the North American stone markings to be Ogham, the variant forms would have to be much older than currently supposed.

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Re: Druids in Ancient America? - Ogham-Like Rock Etchings Found in Colorado
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2013, 10:25:19 pm »
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From this article that just appeared on the Order of Bards, Ovates, and Druids (OBOD) website this morning, written by Debra L. Lewis:

 
...because American Indians certainly have never ever used any form of rock art, ever.

No, it must be that Europeans came over to this deserted land and made their mark. Yes. Of course.


Furthermore, that picture...is a spiral. Not that I'm a scholar in N. American petroglyphs, but I've seen a few and I'm pretty sure spirals have been among them. Even if they haven't...what, did the druids invent the spiral?

Unless the picture is unrelated to the article, in which case...um. No comment.
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Re: Druids in Ancient America? - Ogham-Like Rock Etchings Found in Colorado
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2013, 10:46:52 pm »
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Furthermore, that picture...is a spiral. Not that I'm a scholar in N. American petroglyphs, but I've seen a few and I'm pretty sure spirals have been among them. Even if they haven't...what, did the druids invent the spiral?

Unless the picture is unrelated to the article, in which case...um. No comment.

 
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Re: Druids in Ancient America? - Ogham-Like Rock Etchings Found in Colorado
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2013, 02:48:38 am »
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...because American Indians certainly have never ever used any form of rock art, ever.

No, it must be that Europeans came over to this deserted land and made their mark. Yes. Of course.


Furthermore, that picture...is a spiral. Not that I'm a scholar in N. American petroglyphs, but I've seen a few and I'm pretty sure spirals have been among them. Even if they haven't...what, did the druids invent the spiral?

Unless the picture is unrelated to the article, in which case...um. No comment.


What Morag said.
 
And this, from the article, really cements the idea that these people are more concerned with their pet theory and don't even seem to care that their actions may be damaging ancient sites:

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While archaeological assistance was asked for, no one waited to receive it and, in the meantime, many sites have been destroyed from future research by amateur excavations. With each successive dig, this group continues to burn any bridge of cooperation between themselves and legitimate science. The amateurs continue to sell books but do nothing to promote the truth and, in fact, hide honest questions.
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Druids in Ancient America? - Ogham-Like Rock Etchings Found in Colorado
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2013, 02:58:26 am »
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What Morag said.
 
And this, from the article, really cements the idea that these people are more concerned with their pet theory and don't even seem to care that their actions may be damaging ancient sites:

Which is exactly what the article seems to be saying... I'm a bit confused here. My dyslexia may be taking over, but it seems to me that the article is arguing that we have no need for a Druids-in-America theory because every ancient civilisation was capable of writing on rocks. Which seems eminently sensible to me.
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