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    Climate Change: Is an Ice Age Coming Soon?

    With all global warming stuff today, it's easy to forget that in the 1960s the climate change prediction was for a new ice age soon. According to some Swedish scientists, a new age looks like it may still be coming, just somewhat delayed by human activity.

    "We are probably entering a new ice age right now. However, we're not noticing it due to the effects of carbon dioxide," says Professor of Physical Geography Lars Franzén, from the Department of Earth Sciences at Gothenburg uni.
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    Note: This is not evidence that no climate change is occurring, just that the change may be a roller-coaster ride of warmer, then colder.

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    Re: Climate Change: Is an Ice Age Coming Soon?

    Quote Originally Posted by RandallS View Post
    With all global warming stuff today, it's easy to forget that in the 1960s the climate change prediction was for a new ice age soon. According to some Swedish scientists, a new age looks like it may still be coming, just somewhat delayed by human activity.



    Read the Article

    Note: This is not evidence that no climate change is occurring, just that the change may be a roller-coaster ride of warmer, then colder.
    Which brings into serious question as to whether man's activities have any significant impact; or if the called for major changes in CO2 output might make things worse, ie major cooling. See Fallen Angels by Niven, Pournelle.

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    Re: Climate Change: Is an Ice Age Coming Soon?

    Quote Originally Posted by sailor View Post
    Which brings into serious question as to whether man's activities have any significant impact; or if the called for major changes in CO2 output might make things worse, ie major cooling. See Fallen Angels by Niven, Pournelle.
    I guess it depends on what you consider significant. The scientists here seem to be saying that the reason we have no seen signs of the Ice Age by now is because of the extra CO2 we are putting in the atmosphere. If true that would still be a significant impact, at least IMHO.
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    Re: Climate Change: Is an Ice Age Coming Soon?

    Quote Originally Posted by RandallS View Post
    I guess it depends on what you consider significant. The scientists here seem to be saying that the reason we have no seen signs of the Ice Age by now is because of the extra CO2 we are putting in the atmosphere. If true that would still be a significant impact, at least IMHO.
    I poorly communicated my point.

    The extra CO2 has either no significant effect (or at least over the decade time frame) or has held off the Ice Age.

    Cutting the CO2, if it's been holding off the Ice Age, could drop us into an Ice Age.

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    Re: Climate Change: Is an Ice Age Coming Soon?

    Quote Originally Posted by sailor View Post
    I poorly communicated my point.

    The extra CO2 has either no significant effect (or at least over the decade time frame) or has held off the Ice Age.

    Cutting the CO2, if it's been holding off the Ice Age, could drop us into an Ice Age.
    If an "ice age" is the opposite of a warming period, which brings with it horrendously exaggerated weather patterns and catastrophic storms around the world, then bring this ice age thing on, which, being the opposite, should at least have an ameliorating and homogenizing effect, yeah?

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    Re: Climate Change: Is an Ice Age Coming Soon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maps View Post
    If an "ice age" is the opposite of a warming period, which brings with it horrendously exaggerated weather patterns and catastrophic storms around the world, then bring this ice age thing on, which, being the opposite, should at least have an ameliorating and homogenizing effect, yeah?
    I am more concerned about "If we're getting this much of a warming effect with an ice age coming through to moderate it, how boned are we really?"
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    Re: Climate Change: Is an Ice Age Coming Soon?

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    I am more concerned about "If we're getting this much of a warming effect with an ice age coming through to moderate it, how boned are we really?"
    Yeah idk I'm kind of resigned to the fact that not too many people give a shit about that question and won't until consequences come and take a big, steaming dump on their face. Because almighty capitalism takes precedence over everything or whatever.

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    Re: Climate Change: Is an Ice Age Coming Soon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhawk View Post
    I am more concerned about "If we're getting this much of a warming effect with an ice age coming through to moderate it, how boned are we really?"
    That's certainly a question that needs to be asked. However, if we are entering another ice age, some of the warming may be natural (i.e. not caused by humans) as a temperature rise is apparently common at the very start of an ice age.

    I don't have a "position" here, but I've always wondered what happened to the "next ice age soon" bit being predicted in the 1960s. The evidence was pretty good (even though it provoked much doom and gloom talk from folks who had no idea about reality who thought glaciers would be covering Europe and North America by the year 2000). Therefore I find this science very interesting.
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    Re: Climate Change: Is an Ice Age Coming Soon?

    Quote Originally Posted by RandallS View Post
    With all global warming stuff today, it's easy to forget that in the 1960s the climate change prediction was for a new ice age.
    I remember that being the big thing in the 70's, and have often wonderwed what happened to that idea

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    Re: Climate Change: Is an Ice Age Coming Soon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonoake View Post
    I remember that being the big thing in the 70's, and have often wonderwed what happened to that idea
    That's a big part of the skepticism on Global Warming. The same solutions are being offered for a AGW as were offered for new ice age - lots of govt control, lots of transfer of wealth from first world countries to 3rd world countries.

    Throw in serious questions about the actual science and the people calling for changes not acting like change is going to happen and you get the public fighting back.

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