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Re: What is a Christian Witch?
« Reply #60 on: August 08, 2014, 01:27:10 am »
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Hi, PrincessKLS,

Just so you know, this thread is over 2 1/2 years old, and the OP hasn't been back in over 2 years. Reviving the thread is okay, but don't expect the person who initially asked the question to respond, or even to see your reply.

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Which would certainly cut down on the possibilities of any arguments or unpleasantness breaking out:D:

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Re: What is a Christian Witch?
« Reply #61 on: October 16, 2014, 11:33:43 am »
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ok, that explains it better. thanks. I'll let her know.

 
Okay as a Christian witch myself, the best I can describe it is, a journey, you get exposed to Christian concepts, pagan (neopagan) concepts and you find a way of combining it.
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Re: What is a Christian Witch?
« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2014, 12:12:41 pm »
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Okay as a Christian witch myself, the best I can describe it is, a journey, you get exposed to Christian concepts, pagan (neopagan) concepts and you find a way of combining it.

 
A fair few Christian witches would, from what I've observed, rather object to the notion that their Craft was neo/pagan.  Particularly the more traditionalist sorts tend to think of it as a gift from God.
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Re: What is a Christian Witch?
« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2014, 12:17:42 pm »
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A fair few Christian witches would, from what I've observed, rather object to the notion that their Craft was neo/pagan.  Particularly the more traditionalist sorts tend to think of it as a gift from God.

 
-nod- I know a number of individuals who believe their divination abilities are a gift of the Holy Spirit. Not all witches are Pagan, and not all Paganism is directly conflicted with all Christianity.
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Re: What is a Christian Witch?
« Reply #64 on: October 17, 2014, 07:05:00 pm »
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Okay as a Christian witch myself, the best I can describe it is, a journey, you get exposed to Christian concepts, pagan (neopagan) concepts and you find a way of combining it.


You've attempted to converse with the OP in this thread a couple of months ago. This is what I said then:

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Hi, PrincessKLS,

Just so you know, this thread is over 2 1/2 years old, and the OP hasn't been back in over 2 years. Reviving the thread is okay, but don't expect the person who initially asked the question to respond, or even to see your reply.

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The OP still hasn't been back. They have not seen your posts to them. They will not see them, much less reply, unless they come back, which after this long is unlikely.

If there is a conversation you want to have in this thread, that's fine. But you cannot have that convo with someone who isn't here. If you want to have a discussion on this thread's topic, I'd suggest phrasing your post in a way that invites people who are currently active on TC to engage with you.

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Re: What is a Christian Witch?
« Reply #65 on: October 20, 2014, 02:39:52 pm »
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That is the entire concept.


Hanging this here, not directing this at you, Darkhawk.
 
I can't speak for the OP, but maybe zie wanted more details like "what do they believe in or practice."  Obviously, they would practice witchcraft and believe in Christianity, but perhaps more details than that.  Like, specific examples, perhaps.  

For me, I would be interested in a philosophical debate on how a practitioner of witchcraft would feel comfortable being a witch when magic is not allowed in the Bible. Of course, that would depend on what denomination you adhere to, etc.  

Also, what draws a person to witchcraft *and* Christianity.  The two seem mutually exclusive.  Why not practice one and not the other?

And the argument can't be "because they want to."  :D

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Re: What is a Christian Witch?
« Reply #66 on: October 20, 2014, 03:04:54 pm »
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And the argument can't be "because they want to."  :D

 
Why not?
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Re: What is a Christian Witch?
« Reply #67 on: October 20, 2014, 03:15:28 pm »
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Hanging this here, not directing this at you, Darkhawk.
 
I can't speak for the OP, but maybe zie wanted more details like "what do they believe in or practice."  Obviously, they would practice witchcraft and believe in Christianity, but perhaps more details than that.  Like, specific examples, perhaps.  

For me, I would be interested in a philosophical debate on how a practitioner of witchcraft would feel comfortable being a witch when magic is not allowed in the Bible. Of course, that would depend on what denomination you adhere to, etc.  

Also, what draws a person to witchcraft *and* Christianity.  The two seem mutually exclusive.  Why not practice one and not the other?

And the argument can't be "because they want to."  :D

 
Heck, it depends on TRANSLATION.  There's argument it's "do not suffer a POISONER to live".  There are also times in the Bible when people consult those that would be considered magical practitioners by our standards.

What's the difference between a miracle and magic?  Between magic and prayer?  Between religion and witchcraft?  Sometimes it's just about where you draw the lines.

If you're asking how someone can be a Christian WICCAN, that's an entirely different thing.  But magic and Christianity?  LOOOOONG history of that.

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Re: What is a Christian Witch?
« Reply #68 on: October 20, 2014, 04:01:42 pm »
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I can't speak for the OP, but maybe zie wanted more details like "what do they believe in or practice."  Obviously, they would practice witchcraft and believe in Christianity, but perhaps more details than that.  Like, specific examples, perhaps.  


Don't you think that's a bit much to ask of a board with a near-nonexistent Christian population?  I mean, I could do the research on all of the forms of traditional craft performed by Christians over the years - I've done bibs and bobs, and I do have relevant books in my library though I haven't read them - but it's not actually something anyone here is likely to have extensive knowledge of just because of being here.

The folk magic traditions that various things draw on are pretty much all Christian at some level, whether recently or not; anyone who is familiar with folk magic is thus likely reasonably aware of things that Christian witches do, because that's the stuff that Christian witches do!

(I mean, my ex's wife comes from a family line with a tradition of wart removal.  I don't think she's qualified to learn it, which she rather regrets.)

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Also, what draws a person to witchcraft *and* Christianity.  The two seem mutually exclusive.  Why not practice one and not the other?

 
For most Christian witches it's how they were raised?  You might as well ask what draws a person to lunch and dinner.  People gotta eat.
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Re: What is a Christian Witch?
« Reply #69 on: October 20, 2014, 04:13:32 pm »
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For most Christian witches it's how they were raised?  You might as well ask what draws a person to lunch and dinner.  People gotta eat.

 
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Re: What is a Christian Witch?
« Reply #70 on: October 24, 2014, 02:20:20 pm »
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Don't you think that's a bit much to ask of a board with a near-nonexistent Christian population?  

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For most Christian witches it's how they were raised?  You might as well ask what draws a person to lunch and dinner.  People gotta eat.

 
Not meaning to sound snarky, but no, I don't think it's too much to ask of this interfaith discussion forum that has a presence of Christian Witches.

I think your last few sentences hits it on the head really well.  In terms of religion, it's all food, and we gotta eat.  

IME, it was too hard to compromise.  Again, as you said, it has to do with how we are raised.  I can see a UU person molding witchcraft and Christianity very well, because of the liberal treatment of the Bible.  That's great.  I would see where a Fundmentalist Christian would have a harder time, because in their opinion, the Bible is the literal word of God and no part can be interpreted, etc.  For that person (as it was in my experience), I would feel like zie would have a much harder decision to make.

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Re: What is a Christian Witch?
« Reply #71 on: October 24, 2014, 03:39:52 pm »
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I would see where a Fundmentalist Christian would have a harder time, because in their opinion, the Bible is the literal word of God and no part can be interpreted, etc.  For that person (as it was in my experience), I would feel like zie would have a much harder decision to make.

 
In my experience, the people who practice family-line Christian witchcraft are usually from the South, where more conservative lines of Christianity predominate.  However, as I noted before, no "molding" is required to do this because it is how things work there.

These people are, however, extremely unlikely to be on a pagan board, and thus cannot actually speak for themselves here.
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Re: What is a Christian Witch?
« Reply #72 on: October 24, 2014, 10:07:30 pm »
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In my experience, the people who practice family-line Christian witchcraft are usually from the South, where more conservative lines of Christianity predominate.  However, as I noted before, no "molding" is required to do this because it is how things work there.

These people are, however, extremely unlikely to be on a pagan board, and thus cannot actually speak for themselves here.

 
It's a very interesting topic for sure.  You've sparked for me an interest for more research.  Thanks. :)

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Re: What is a Christian Witch?
« Reply #73 on: November 20, 2014, 12:22:15 pm »
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I don't mean to sound ignorant, but what exactly is a Christian Witch? What does it entail?

A person that combines Christian practice and belief with Modern Witchcraft practices. The latter you can read as "modernized folk magic", because that's what "witchcraft" generally means in contemporary Paganism--and some other circles.
It's another way to phrasing "Folk Christianity". These things have been around since Christianity itself, but it's only been in the past century or so that people have referred to it as "witchcraft" under a new definition of the term.

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Re: What is a Christian Witch?
« Reply #74 on: November 21, 2014, 10:39:28 am »
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For me, I would be interested in a philosophical debate on how a practitioner of witchcraft would feel comfortable being a witch when magic is not allowed in the Bible. Of course, that would depend on what denomination you adhere to, etc.  

 

If I remember correctly, "witchcraft/magic" was what Others did,  what followers of God did was simply "religion/prayer/worship". So basically it was just tribal and cultural differences: if done through God=good, if in the absence of God=bad.
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