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    Variation in Pantheons

    So I’ve recently been a little fixated on the following article (http://odroerirjournal.com/pantheon-what-pantheon/) which, very briefly, questions the extent to which the “Norse Pantheon” as articulated in the Eddas is an accurate representation of how historical Heathens saw their Gods and the relationships among them.

    I find this an interesting question because it seems to me that the way a particular culture understands its pantheon of deities is something which is in constant flux. To the extent that this is true, I wonder how this affects the way a particular persons comprehends and works with the deities in their specific tradition. I suspect that cultures which have a (relatively) high level of literacy and/or political unity, a professional religious class, and denser populations (such as Greco-Roman, South Asian, and Chinese cultures) may have a greater degree of pan-cultural coherence in the way in which a pantheon is understood than in cultures (such as temperate European ones) which are lacking some of the above mentioned factors.
    What I want to know is (and these are questions perhaps most relevant to people who practice a particular reconstructed or unbroken type of polytheism though others are welcome to answer);

    - How did the pantheon of deities which you worship develop historically? To what extent does this pantheon exhibit regional or temporal variation?
    - How does any uncertainty which arises from this variation affect your personal practice? (For example, I am a bit reluctant to address Thor and Tyr as the “sons” of Odin because I tend to think this concept may not have been particularly widespread and/or developed in the post-conversion period).
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    Re: Variation in Pantheons

    Quote Originally Posted by Megatherium View Post
    - How did the pantheon of deities which you worship develop historically? To what extent does this pantheon exhibit regional or temporal variation?
    Hah. Um.

    So the following things are all simultaneously true in Egyptian theology:

    - there was, by the time of Egypt-as-a-nation, a unified civic cultus in which temple gods were formally honored in very similar ways regardless of which god(s) was primary resident in a temple

    - each major city had its own mythology, sometimes its own creation myth and creator god, focal deities, interrelationships among deities, local sacred animals, and so on, which were part of the set of deities that other Egyptians would recognise but with their own localised nature (compare the wide variety of theologies and relationships that are called "Hinduism")

    - nomes occasionally had low-level conflict with each other that sometimes manifested in religious symbolism (of type, "Well FINE I'm going to eat YOUR SACRED ANIMAL how do you like THAT", mostly)

    - which deities were recognised particularly at the national level varied over time, depending on which cities were in political ascendancy, the strength of the priesthoods of various powers, the preferences of the ruling family, and the vagaries of time

    - various symbols - as much as various powers - had different portions of their meaning emphasised in different places (so, for example, the city where crocodiles were particularly revered would emphasise different parts of what-it-means-to-crocodile than the areas where the importance of the crocodile was mostly 'they appear basically out of nowhere and drag things down to the depths of the river to die')

    - How does any uncertainty which arises from this variation affect your personal practice? (For example, I am a bit reluctant to address Thor and Tyr as the “sons” of Odin because I tend to think this concept may not have been particularly widespread and/or developed in the post-conversion period).
    It mostly has left me with a sense that a localised practice is essential. There is so much variation within the span of the mythological corpus, and all of it is dependent on a particular timeplace. My own practice focuses on a set of gods who are not typically grouped, though there are relationships from various places among many of them. However, that particular grouping is sensical, and holds a particular nature, and is consistent with the larger mythos, and thus I consider it to be the structural interpretation of my nome.
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    Re: Variation in Pantheons

    Quote Originally Posted by Megatherium View Post
    So I’ve recently been a little fixated on the following article (http://odroerirjournal.com/pantheon-what-pantheon/) which, very briefly, questions the extent to which the “Norse Pantheon” as articulated in the Eddas is an accurate representation of how historical Heathens saw their Gods and the relationships among them.

    I find this an interesting question because it seems to me that the way a particular culture understands its pantheon of deities is something which is in constant flux. To the extent that this is true, I wonder how this affects the way a particular persons comprehends and works with the deities in their specific tradition. I suspect that cultures which have a (relatively) high level of literacy and/or political unity, a professional religious class, and denser populations (such as Greco-Roman, South Asian, and Chinese cultures) may have a greater degree of pan-cultural coherence in the way in which a pantheon is understood than in cultures (such as temperate European ones) which are lacking some of the above mentioned factors.
    What I want to know is (and these are questions perhaps most relevant to people who practice a particular reconstructed or unbroken type of polytheism though others are welcome to answer);

    - How did the pantheon of deities which you worship develop historically? To what extent does this pantheon exhibit regional or temporal variation?
    - How does any uncertainty which arises from this variation affect your personal practice? (For example, I am a bit reluctant to address Thor and Tyr as the “sons” of Odin because I tend to think this concept may not have been particularly widespread and/or developed in the post-conversion period).
    Those are difficult questions. In the first instance we have two problems, as we (well, me) have to distinguish between change in the religion that occurred in Pre-Hispanic Mesoamerica, and change in the perception and interpretation of the religion in the modern era.
    The second problem is a challenge, but at least we have some sources. Earlier scholars tended to depict Mesoamerican gods like Greek or Roman gods, i.e.: as discreet entities. Some scholars, mainly Miguel Leon-Portilla, claimed that the Mexica had a supreme creator deity called Ometeotl, giving the Mexica a religious 'hierarchy' and a central deity. However this interpretation has been seriously question by some more recent scholars such as James Malfie and Richard Haly. Recent scholars, Malfie again and Alan Sandstrom, have noted a pantheistic element to Nahua religion, based on the idea of gods being composed of Teotl, which is omnipresent, and the fact that Nahua gods often have a range of different titles and 'aspects'. However, it is unclear how far this idea should be extended, as many indigenous prayers reference gods specifically by name (or rather, by title), and some gods are oppositional to each other, and many are depicted using distinct sets of imagery and have distinct sets of attributes and associations.

    The second part is even trickier, as there is a lack of written sources and everything comes down to interpretation. It is likely, however, that Mesoamerican city-states followed the same pattern as other societies, with local legends, ceremonies, and beliefs. There was however, a lot of cross pollination between different groups. This changed with the rise of the Mexica. They introduced Huitzilopochtli to the Mesoamerican pantheon, and increased the cross pollination between different groups though increased contact and improved communication. Politically, the Mexica adopted the religious practises of their vassals and began to codify them, which may have eventually led to an official pantheon, a unified calendar, and a coherent set of myths forming in a relatively organic fashion. This never happened though, for the obvious reason.

    As to the second question, it does not often come up as a problem, though largely because my current practise is hampered by my living conditions. Basically, I have other stuff to worry about. However, when this changes, I would like to create a 'god map' to help articulate the relationship between the gods. I also have to improve my drawing skill.

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    Re: Variation in Pantheons

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhawk View Post
    Hah. Um.

    So the following things are all simultaneously true in Egyptian theology:

    - there was, by the time of Egypt-as-a-nation, a unified civic cultus in which temple gods were formally honored in very similar ways regardless of which god(s) was primary resident in a temple

    - each major city had its own mythology, sometimes its own creation myth and creator god, focal deities, interrelationships among deities, local sacred animals, and so on, which were part of the set of deities that other Egyptians would recognise but with their own localised nature (compare the wide variety of theologies and relationships that are called "Hinduism")

    - nomes occasionally had low-level conflict with each other that sometimes manifested in religious symbolism (of type, "Well FINE I'm going to eat YOUR SACRED ANIMAL how do you like THAT", mostly)

    - which deities were recognised particularly at the national level varied over time, depending on which cities were in political ascendancy, the strength of the priesthoods of various powers, the preferences of the ruling family, and the vagaries of time

    - various symbols - as much as various powers - had different portions of their meaning emphasised in different places (so, for example, the city where crocodiles were particularly revered would emphasise different parts of what-it-means-to-crocodile than the areas where the importance of the crocodile was mostly 'they appear basically out of nowhere and drag things down to the depths of the river to die')
    Thanks Darkhawk. I suspected, but was not really aware of the combination of local variation within a broader cultural context in which those local religious differences would be understandable to non-locals. This is especially interesting given that Egypt frequently had a much higher degree of political unity than other Mediterranean regions. I'm no expert on Greco-Roman religion, but I have developed an impression that those cultures also had a combination of a broad comprehensible cultural context with a significant amount of regional diversity.

    I wonder to what extent the modern presentation of Mediterranean religious systems is biased in favour of a more unified tradition, and to what extent Christianity has influenced those ideas.


    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhawk View Post
    It mostly has left me with a sense that a localised practice is essential. There is so much variation within the span of the mythological corpus, and all of it is dependent on a particular timeplace. My own practice focuses on a set of gods who are not typically grouped, though there are relationships from various places among many of them. However, that particular grouping is sensical, and holds a particular nature, and is consistent with the larger mythos, and thus I consider it to be the structural interpretation of my nome.
    It seems strange, but the more I learn about historical Heathen cultures, the more I feel that broad swaths of those traditions simply cannot be translated in a meaningful way into a modern situation. The result of this is a greater focus on my particular region, and I find myself reinterpreting myths and deity roles in the context of my local environment. (F'ex, the marriage of Njord and Skadi has assumed a particular importance for me as a relationship between two forces involved in the annual mountain snowfall and melt - Skadi "leaves" Njord in the winter to return to her mountains, Njord "leaves" Skadi in the spring as the snow melts to return to the ocean).
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    Re: Variation in Pantheons

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    Those are difficult questions. In the first instance we have two problems, as we (well, me) have to distinguish between change in the religion that occurred in Pre-Hispanic Mesoamerica, and change in the perception and interpretation of the religion in the modern era.
    The second problem is a challenge, but at least we have some sources. Earlier scholars tended to depict Mesoamerican gods like Greek or Roman gods, i.e.: as discreet entities. Some scholars, mainly Miguel Leon-Portilla, claimed that the Mexica had a supreme creator deity called Ometeotl, giving the Mexica a religious 'hierarchy' and a central deity. However this interpretation has been seriously question by some more recent scholars such as James Malfie and Richard Haly. Recent scholars, Malfie again and Alan Sandstrom, have noted a pantheistic element to Nahua religion, based on the idea of gods being composed of Teotl, which is omnipresent, and the fact that Nahua gods often have a range of different titles and 'aspects'. However, it is unclear how far this idea should be extended, as many indigenous prayers reference gods specifically by name (or rather, by title), and some gods are oppositional to each other, and many are depicted using distinct sets of imagery and have distinct sets of attributes and associations.
    Thanks Yei. My knowledge of Mesoamerican religious systems is extremely poor, but I wonder if it is possible that the polytheistic, hierarchical and pantheistic interpretations could have all existed simultaneously in some of these cultures. In contrast perhaps it is possible that all three viewpoints predominated at particular time periods and/or places.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yei View Post
    The second part is even trickier, as there is a lack of written sources and everything comes down to interpretation. It is likely, however, that Mesoamerican city-states followed the same pattern as other societies, with local legends, ceremonies, and beliefs. There was however, a lot of cross pollination between different groups. This changed with the rise of the Mexica. They introduced Huitzilopochtli to the Mesoamerican pantheon, and increased the cross pollination between different groups though increased contact and improved communication. Politically, the Mexica adopted the religious practises of their vassals and began to codify them, which may have eventually led to an official pantheon, a unified calendar, and a coherent set of myths forming in a relatively organic fashion. This never happened though, for the obvious reason.
    I find the information about the Mexica's influence on the existing religious systems fascinating. It makes me curious as to what extent Roman religion influenced Germanic traditions. For example, one of the best attested deities worshipped by Germanic people is...Hercules. There are numerous votive stones and coins in Germanic regions which bear the names like "Hercules Magusanus". Some of this archaeological evidence was likely produced by Romans in the area, but there may well have been some cross-fertilization between the cults of Hercules and Donar/Thor (It makes me wonder to what extent the idea of Thor as a slayer of monsters reflects this influence).

    Quote Originally Posted by Yei View Post
    As to the second question, it does not often come up as a problem, though largely because my current practise is hampered by my living conditions. Basically, I have other stuff to worry about. However, when this changes, I would like to create a 'god map' to help articulate the relationship between the gods. I also have to improve my drawing skill.
    I hope your living conditions and drawing skills improve in the near future!
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    Re: Variation in Pantheons

    Quote Originally Posted by Megatherium View Post
    Thanks Darkhawk. I suspected, but was not really aware of the combination of local variation within a broader cultural context in which those local religious differences would be understandable to non-locals. This is especially interesting given that Egypt frequently had a much higher degree of political unity than other Mediterranean regions. I'm no expert on Greco-Roman religion, but I have developed an impression that those cultures also had a combination of a broad comprehensible cultural context with a significant amount of regional diversity.
    I know that's the case with Greece. Part of the reason that Greek mythology seems so unified and consistent, as I understand it, is that basically the stuff that survives is almost entirely Athenian; the particularities found in each other polis are almost entirely lost.

    So we know that it was more or less a solid cross-Greek notion to have the Twelve Olympians, but which gods were counted in the twelve differed. I also seem to recall that the Spartan take on Ares was rather different than the Athenian one (which found him rather uncouth); that's, well, to be expected given the different cities, I think.

    I wonder to what extent the modern presentation of Mediterranean religious systems is biased in favour of a more unified tradition, and to what extent Christianity has influenced those ideas.
    I think Romans got that sort of thing first, though their unification was not as comprehensive as came later.

    It seems strange, but the more I learn about historical Heathen cultures, the more I feel that broad swaths of those traditions simply cannot be translated in a meaningful way into a modern situation. The result of this is a greater focus on my particular region, and I find myself reinterpreting myths and deity roles in the context of my local environment. (F'ex, the marriage of Njord and Skadi has assumed a particular importance for me as a relationship between two forces involved in the annual mountain snowfall and melt - Skadi "leaves" Njord in the winter to return to her mountains, Njord "leaves" Skadi in the spring as the snow melts to return to the ocean).
    One of my first bits of post-conversion poetry was a contemplation of the Set/Osiris myth outside the context of the Nile flood, in which Set has to tear Osiris (source of the flood in some versions) into many tiny pieces, because that is what is rain.
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    Re: Variation in Pantheons

    Quote Originally Posted by Megatherium View Post
    Thanks Yei. My knowledge of Mesoamerican religious systems is extremely poor, but I wonder if it is possible that the polytheistic, hierarchical and pantheistic interpretations could have all existed simultaneously in some of these cultures. In contrast perhaps it is possible that all three viewpoints predominated at particular time periods and/or places
    To be honest, it is impossible to know for sure. I believe that the polytheistic/pantheistic interpretations did exist simultaneously, though the exact degree of either probably varied between time, place, and culture. However, I don't believe it was ever hierarchical. Everything about Mesoamerican spirituality seems to oppose this notion.

    I find the information about the Mexica's influence on the existing religious systems fascinating. It makes me curious as to what extent Roman religion influenced Germanic traditions. For example, one of the best attested deities worshipped by Germanic people is...Hercules. There are numerous votive stones and coins in Germanic regions which bear the names like "Hercules Magusanus". Some of this archaeological evidence was likely produced by Romans in the area, but there may well have been some cross-fertilization between the cults of Hercules and Donar/Thor (It makes me wonder to what extent the idea of Thor as a slayer of monsters reflects this influence).
    Sure. People in the past were more mobile, communicative, and philosophical then we often give them credit for. It is not surprising that people travelled and learned from each other. Though because thought does not preserve directly, it is difficult to be sure, especially with cultures that do not use alphabetical writing, or have had their records destroyed.

    I hope your living conditions and drawing skills improve in the near future!
    The living conditions are likely to change in a year, for better or worse. The drawing skills likely to remain the same for the foreseeable future. I may try drawing a temple/backyard shrine schematic.

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    I know that's the case with Greece. Part of the reason that Greek mythology seems so unified and consistent, as I understand it, is that basically the stuff that survives is almost entirely Athenian; the particularities found in each other polis are almost entirely lost.

    So we know that it was more or less a solid cross-Greek notion to have the Twelve Olympians, but which gods were counted in the twelve differed. I also seem to recall that the Spartan take on Ares was rather different than the Athenian one (which found him rather uncouth); that's, well, to be expected given the different cities, I think.
    Ah yes. Now that I think about it, I do remember reading stuff by Hellenic polytheists where they explicitly state the Athenian bias of their information. I am vaguely aware of a few Hellenic polytheists that try to base their religious life off of non-Athenian sources, and I was surprised by some of the differences. (I remember reading a blog, which I can't find anymore, by a devotee of Apollo whose interpretations of that deity were, I think, more Spartan in nature, and if I recall that viewpoint correctly, Apollo was not considered to be below Zeus in the "hierarchy")

    One of my first lessons in the variability of ancient pantheons came when reading about the 12 Olympians. As far as I'm aware, both Hestia and Dionysus were always considered very important deities, but their status as Olympians varied.



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    One of my first bits of post-conversion poetry was a contemplation of the Set/Osiris myth outside the context of the Nile flood, in which Set has to tear Osiris (source of the flood in some versions) into many tiny pieces, because that is what is rain.
    Beautiful! I've often wondered about the difficulty of creating a modern and locally appropriate Kemetic practice, partly because I know next to nothing about ancient Egyptian religion, and partly due to the significant age of those traditions.
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    Re: Variation in Pantheons

    Quote Originally Posted by Yei View Post
    To be honest, it is impossible to know for sure. I believe that the polytheistic/pantheistic interpretations did exist simultaneously, though the exact degree of either probably varied between time, place, and culture. However, I don't believe it was ever hierarchical. Everything about Mesoamerican spirituality seems to oppose this notion.
    There does seem to be a tendency by some people with a Christian background to understand other religious traditions in ways that make sense to them, so I can certainly see an unnecessary imposition of a hierarchical relationship among deities as a result of such a viewpoint.



    Quote Originally Posted by Yei View Post
    Sure. People in the past were more mobile, communicative, and philosophical then we often give them credit for. It is not surprising that people travelled and learned from each other. Though because thought does not preserve directly, it is difficult to be sure, especially with cultures that do not use alphabetical writing, or have had their records destroyed.
    Yeah, for religious traditions that lack written material from actual practitioners, one may be able to discern basic cosmology, ritual structure etc., but the actual spirituality- the subjective emotions felt by those who participated in the religion - are often notoriously difficult to really grasp. Hopefully, if the research involved in crafting a religious practice based on a historical religion is done to level that allows a modern practitioner to feel really engaged, those subjective experiences may develop naturally.



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    I bet that no matter how poor your drawing skills are, mine are much worse.
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    Re: Variation in Pantheons

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    I bet that no matter how poor your drawing skills are, mine are much worse.
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