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Calling on Freyja
« on: February 10, 2017, 06:42:35 pm »
Hi all! After several months of swearing up and down I would only explore secular paths, Freyja continues to pop up in everything I read and feels to be beckoning me.

I have never approached a goddess (or God for that matter) in an un-Christian manner, and my direct sitting down and meditating doesn't seem to be effecctive. What would be a better way to begin a working relationship with her?

Any advice/information from those who work with Freyja would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: Calling on Freyja
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2017, 06:57:29 pm »
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Hi all! After several months of swearing up and down I would only explore secular paths, Freyja continues to pop up in everything I read and feels to be beckoning me.

I have never approached a goddess (or God for that matter) in an un-Christian manner, and my direct sitting down and meditating doesn't seem to be effecctive. What would be a better way to begin a working relationship with her?

Any advice/information from those who work with Freyja would be greatly appreciated!


Freya is one of the most important deities to me, but I think my approach to her may be a bit different than what you're looking for. I make weekly offerings to Freya, and recite prayers of praise (though I've never really asked her for anything in particular - I tend to go to my ancestors in those situations), but I don't really think about "approaching" her or trying to create a more personal relationship.

However, I don't think there is any harm, especially if you are trying to establish a more personal relationship with a deity, in beginning by making an offering. Germanic deities were often offered alcoholic beverages, so mead or wine might be a good place to start.

Though I don't agree with everything the following author says, she does seem to have put a lot of work into her relationship with Freya, and you may find something there which is useful to you.

https://thegoldthread.wordpress.com/
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Re: Calling on Freyja
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2017, 09:36:46 am »
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...................and my direct sitting down and meditating doesn't seem to be effecctive. What would be a better way to begin a working relationship with her?

Any advice/information from those who work with Freyja would be greatly appreciated!



Meditaion is effective, but take it a time. For example hindu Bhaktiyogis used medtation, see Ramakrishna and his vision of Kali. In ancient Egypt and Greece used to accelerate meditation before bedtime. See translantion magical papyri.
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Re: Calling on Freyja
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2017, 12:44:12 pm »
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Meditaion is effective, but take it a time. For example hindu Bhaktiyogis used medtation, see Ramakrishna and his vision of Kali.


Which might demonstrate the effectiveness of meditation on a deity with respect to Hinduism, but says nothing either way about the effectiveness of meditation on a deity in a heathen context.

I'm not saying meditation can't be effective for building a relationship with a Norse deity, just that the situations don't automatically parallel each other - and that, when someone tells me they've found meditation (or any other technique) ineffective for themselves and what they're trying to achieve, I generally believe them, rather than telling them they're wrong about their own experience.

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In ancient Egypt and Greece used to accelerate meditation before bedtime. See translantion magical papyri.

 
The PGM refer specifically to the syncretistic milieu of Greco-Roman Egypt; they're not a reliable source for what was done in Egypt or prior to ~2nd century BCE, nor what was done in Greece at all.

I don't know what you mean by 'accelerate meditation'.

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Re: Calling on Freyja
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2017, 03:01:37 pm »
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Which might demonstrate the effectiveness of meditation on a deity with respect to Hinduism, but says nothing either way about the effectiveness of meditation on a deity in a heathen context.

I'm not saying meditation can't be effective for building a relationship with a Norse deity, just that the situations don't automatically parallel each other - and that, when someone tells me they've found meditation (or any other technique) ineffective for themselves and what they're trying to achieve, I generally believe them, rather than telling them they're wrong about their own experience.


 
The PGM refer specifically to the syncretistic milieu of Greco-Roman Egypt; they're not a reliable source for what was done in Egypt or prior to ~2nd century BCE, nor what was done in Greece at all.

I don't know what you mean by 'accelerate meditation'.

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Re: Calling on Freyja
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2017, 05:59:25 am »
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I have never approached a goddess (or God for that matter) in an un-Christian manner, and my direct sitting down and meditating doesn't seem to be effecctive. What would be a better way to begin a working relationship with her?

Any advice/information from those who work with Freyja would be greatly appreciated!

 
Freyja is a pre-Christian Norse deity and meditation was not a method employed by the Heathens to honour their deities, but I think you have already found that from personal practice. Heathenry was and is a votive religion, we offer to our god/esses., common offerings are food, alcohol and in Freyja's case love poetry.

I would also recommend reading the myths and some academic articles discussing Freyja. You can read all Norse myths here:

https://www.northvegr.org
And there is an excellent article you can download here:


https://thegoldthread.wordpress.com/the-cult-of-freyr-and-freya-by-williams-reaves/

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Re: Calling on Freyja
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2017, 10:14:32 am »
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Freyja is a pre-Christian Norse deity and meditation was not a method employed by the Heathens to honour their deities, but I think you have already found that from personal practice. Heathenry was and is a votive religion, we offer to our god/esses., common offerings are food, alcohol and in Freyja's case love poetry./[/url]

 
Thank you very kindly! Like I said approaching deities in a non-prayerful/meditational or vocal worship is still very strange for me. Thank you for your resources :)

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Re: Calling on Freyja
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2017, 04:47:45 pm »
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Which might demonstrate the effectiveness of meditation on a deity with respect to Hinduism, but says nothing either way about the effectiveness of meditation on a deity in a heathen context.


So true. Heathen deities tend to be gods and goddesses of "action". Hindu and Buddhist deities tend to be gods and goddesses of less tangible things, i.e. Ganesha = remover of obstacles, giver of wisdom; Lakshmi = good fortune, charm, grace, beauty and wealth of all kinds besides monetary; Durga = power, invincibility; Rama = unflinching duty despite great personal pain and loss; Kali = destruction of evil, negativity; Guan yin/Chenrezig = compassion.

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I'm not saying meditation can't be effective for building a relationship with a Norse deity, just that the situations don't automatically parallel each other - and that, when someone tells me they've found meditation (or any other technique) ineffective for themselves and what they're trying to achieve, I generally believe them, rather than telling them they're wrong about their own experience.


I've never been one to be able to sit quietly and meditate with eyes closed, rhythmic breathing. I get antsy. But I can look at and focus on an image of a deity and contemplate what that deity means for me, and what I may want from that deity, e.g. meditating on Hanuman to increase my strength, courage, devotion by reflecting on his. That's why meditation has no single definition.

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Re: Calling on Freyja
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2017, 05:20:11 pm »
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So true. Heathen deities tend to be gods and goddesses of "action". Hindu and Buddhist deities tend to be gods and goddesses of less tangible things, i.e. Ganesha = remover of obstacles, giver of wisdom; Lakshmi = good fortune, charm, grace, beauty and wealth of all kinds besides monetary; Durga = power, invincibility; Rama = unflinching duty despite great personal pain and loss; Kali = destruction of evil, negativity; Guan yin/Chenrezig = compassion.



I've never been one to be able to sit quietly and meditate with eyes closed, rhythmic breathing. I get antsy. But I can look at and focus on an image of a deity and contemplate what that deity means for me, and what I may want from that deity, e.g. meditating on Hanuman to increase my strength, courage, devotion by reflecting on his. That's why meditation has no single definition.

 
I "meditate" on one of my goddesses by lighting a candle, wrapping up in a blanket, and having a chat with her. Whatever comes back at least informs me about how *I* think of her. I'm lousy at the sit, breathe, and watch your thoughts form of meditation, as well, but this works well for me.


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