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The Second Debate: Pussygate Galore!
« on: October 09, 2016, 10:06:23 am »
I figured I'd set this banquet table here now, as I salivate at the deliciousness certain to unfold in a few hours as Trump stews in his own juices. It's like Canadian Thanksgiving come a day early!

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Re: The Second Debate: Pussygate Galore!
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2016, 10:14:28 am »
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as Trump stews in his own juices


Oh, and lest I forget, I couldn't resist creating this...

Award the Presidential Medal of Freedom to the "Pussygate" Video Leaker

(a whitehouse.gov petition)
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Re: The Second Debate: Pussygate Galore!
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2016, 11:04:26 am »
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Predictions?

Hillary and her fans oughtta be thanking all the Gods right now. Trump's bigass mouth makes their jobs so much easier.  

Sunday's debate will be 90 mins of reminding America how shitty Trump is to women. Shortly thereafter, the Dem Party will revisit 2012's War on Women narrative, Trump will feign contrition, BJ Clinton will say something unironically pontifical to the media, and our sideways tip into reality-theater will continue unabated.

Meanwhile the GOP are finally catching on to the just how yuuuge that orange millstone is which they've strung about their own neck.  Time for them to hang it up and let a new Party take their place.

Aaaand I'm just waiting for someone to point out that, in fact, the "bimbo" Megyn Kelly asked the right question, after all.
« Last Edit: October 09, 2016, 11:06:52 am by MadZealot »
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Re: The Second Debate: Pussygate Galore!
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2016, 10:40:46 pm »
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I figured I'd set this banquet table here now, as I salivate at the deliciousness certain to unfold in a few hours as Trump stews in his own juices. It's like Canadian Thanksgiving come a day early!

Predictions?

 
I'm already seeing the Trump defenders trying to say that Trump's condoning of sexual assault is some how equivalent to Bill having an affair...Who cares that Trump has cheated on multiple wives...

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Re: The Second Debate: Pussygate Galore!
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2016, 11:00:09 pm »
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I'm already seeing the Trump defenders trying to say that Trump's condoning of sexual assault is some how equivalent to Bill having an affair...Who cares that Trump has cheated on multiple wives...

 
"condoning of sexual assault"

What?
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Re: The Second Debate: Pussygate Galore!
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2016, 11:04:18 pm »
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"condoning of sexual assault"

What?

 
Grabbing people by the genitalia is commonly considered sexual assault.  For starters.

(I mean, none of this can possibly be a surprise to anyone who actually has knowledge of Trump's history, right?  I'm sort of at "THIS is what's causing drama and not the RAPE CHARGE FROM THE WOMAN WHO WAS THIRTEEN AT THE TIME?" but I suppose I can't be surprised by that either.)
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Re: The Second Debate: Pussygate Galore!
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2016, 11:12:28 pm »
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Grabbing people by the genitalia is commonly considered sexual assault.  For starters.

(I mean, none of this can possibly be a surprise to anyone who actually has knowledge of Trump's history, right?  I'm sort of at "THIS is what's causing drama and not the RAPE CHARGE FROM THE WOMAN WHO WAS THIRTEEN AT THE TIME?" but I suppose I can't be surprised by that either.)

 
Oh spare me, he wasn't being serious. It was a private conversation between two men; not the end of the world.
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Re: The Second Debate: Pussygate Galore!
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2016, 11:21:18 pm »
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Oh spare me, he wasn't being serious. It was a private conversation between two men; not the end of the world.

 
On what basis do you think that he was not completely serious, then?  I mean, it's not like he doesn't have a well-documented history of sexual assault to back up the notion that he would casually talk about sexually assaulting people and act like this is a normal thing to do.

Most of the men I know are pretty damn insulted by the idea that that sort of behaviour is appropriate "between two men", meanwhile.  If you don't have higher standards for yourself... why not?
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Re: The Second Debate: Pussygate Galore!
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2016, 11:40:51 pm »
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Oh spare me, he wasn't being serious. It was a private conversation between two men; not the end of the world.

 
Women have been accusing him of doing the things he talks about in that video for years.

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Re: The Second Debate: Pussygate Galore!
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2016, 11:42:33 pm »
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I figured I'd set this banquet table here now, as I salivate at the deliciousness certain to unfold in a few hours as Trump stews in his own juices. It's like Canadian Thanksgiving come a day early!


Round 2: Clinton wins again, though not by the blowout margin of round 1.

Purely on presentation (which is what most folks react to), she was confident and relaxed, while he was bullying, argumentative (repeatedly with the moderators, without cause), and annoyingly interruptive. And just plain surly.

Three gasp-out-loud moments:
1. No handshake at outset
2. Trump's disavowal of his own running mate
3. Trump's promise to prosecute his opponent if he wins
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Re: The Second Debate: Pussygate Galore!
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2016, 11:53:50 pm »
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Oh spare me, he wasn't being serious. It was a private conversation between two men; not the end of the world.

Was he being sarcastic/not sarcastic again?

Here's why this is more than "locker room banter"--

LOCKER ROOM BANTER: "Damn, I'd like to get some of that p-ssy! I could hit that piece of ass and leave her begging for more!"
[lewd but not suggestive of criminal conduct; note the conditional verb in the second sentence, suggesting this occurs only if certain things (like consent) have occurred]

MORE THAN JUST BANTER:
“I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the p---y. You can do anything.”
[lewd AND spells out textbook sexual assault]
« Last Edit: October 09, 2016, 11:55:22 pm by Altair »
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Re: The Second Debate: Pussygate Galore!
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2016, 12:05:15 am »
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Most of the men I know are pretty damn insulted by the idea that that sort of behaviour is appropriate "between two men", meanwhile.  If you don't have higher standards for yourself... why not?

I think there's a line here.  Castus is right, to a point; men do engage in a lot of 'locker-room talk', and much of it's vulgar.  

But.  I like to think that men oughtta know when locker-room talk is appropriate-- such as, in the locker-room.  Or at the bar with the boys.  Or any other place where you're reasonably certain your mostly crass talk will find mostly crass ears.
Oh, and no active microphones anywhere in the vicinity.  Even a savvy millionaire business mogul should know that.  

But this is coming from a guy who still (naively) expects to see some level of professionalism in political discourse.  

Also, while I plead guilty to the use of dirty talk (even the p-word) I can't say I or any of my friends have joked about sexual assault.  

And, yes, it was 11 years ago.  But it's one revelation among many.  And he's said some pretty shitty things just during the campaign.
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Re: The Second Debate: Pussygate Galore!
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2016, 12:11:05 am »
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I think there's a line here.  Castus is right, to a point; men do engage in a lot of 'locker-room talk', and much of it's vulgar.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/20/donald-trump-sexual-assault-allegations-jill-harth-interview
ill Harth speaks out about alleged groping by Donald Trump


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html
Ex-Wife: Donald Trump Made Me Feel ‘Violated’ During Sex

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html
Why The New Child Rape Case Filed Against Donald Trump Should Not Be Ignored
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Re: The Second Debate: Pussygate Galore!
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2016, 12:15:39 am »
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Was he being sarcastic/not sarcastic again?

Here's why this is more than "locker room banter"--

LOCKER ROOM BANTER: "Damn, I'd like to get some of that p-ssy! I could hit that piece of ass and leave her begging for more!"
[lewd but not suggestive of criminal conduct; note the conditional verb in the second sentence, suggesting this occurs only if certain things (like consent) have occurred]

MORE THAN JUST BANTER:
“I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the p---y. You can do anything.”
[lewd AND spells out textbook sexual assault]

 
I concede.
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Re: The Second Debate: Pussygate Galore!
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2016, 12:19:37 am »
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/20/donald-trump-sexual-assault-allegations-jill-harth-interview
ill Harth speaks out about alleged groping by Donald Trump


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html
Ex-Wife: Donald Trump Made Me Feel ‘Violated’ During Sex

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html
Why The New Child Rape Case Filed Against Donald Trump Should Not Be Ignored


Yeah, I'm aware of all that.  I also drew the line at joking about sexual assault.
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