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« on: December 06, 2015, 12:48:09 am »
I'll be sticking to what seems to be an older format for this for the purpose of this thread so I'll not be speaking on or about Galdrs for the most part.

The format I've been finding wherein one is to form the spell is a six-pointed star; essentially the newer form of Hagalaz.

So, my question is, do you think this could have an effect on the casting to have a seventh Rune involved, especially this one, simultaneously in the background and yet over-arching the entire thing?

Granted, this form is supposed to be gentle or benevolent chaos but it is still chaos and it is inherent in the spell.

Then there's the question of the specific format. If nine is a perfected patter then what if one were to use a nine-pointed star to write the spell? Further, nine is the perfected pattern and Hagalaz is the ninth Rune and also Hel's Rune. So, would this mean that if one writes their spell in the nine-point format one is necessarily calling Hel in writing the spell?
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Re: Rune Magic
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2015, 08:55:23 pm »
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... a six-pointed star; essentially the newer form of Hagalaz.

Granted, this form is supposed to be gentle or benevolent chaos....

 
I'm not clear what you're referring to here; the only 'newer form' of Hagalaz I'm familiar with is the one with a double, rather than single, diagonal crossbar, and I can't really correlate that to a six-pointed star.

And, supposed by whom to be gentle/benevolent chaos?

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Re: Rune Magic
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2015, 12:04:32 am »
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I'm not clear what you're referring to here; the only 'newer form' of Hagalaz I'm familiar with is the one with a double, rather than single, diagonal crossbar, and I can't really correlate that to a six-pointed star.

And, supposed by whom to be gentle/benevolent chaos?

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By newer, I mean much newer. It's basically a six-pointed asterisk.

The notion being that as the "H" Hagalaz represent the hailstone the "*" Hagalaz represents a snowflake.
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Re: Rune Magic
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2015, 08:25:08 pm »
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By newer, I mean much newer. It's basically a six-pointed asterisk.

The notion being that as the "H" Hagalaz represent the hailstone the "*" Hagalaz represents a snowflake.

 
Ah. Innovations of this sort are likely to not be common knowledge; you'd probably get more responses if you provided a source for the innovation, so that people can get a notion of the context.

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Re: Rune Magic
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2015, 11:31:42 am »
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Ah. Innovations of this sort are likely to not be common knowledge; you'd probably get more responses if you provided a source for the innovation, so that people can get a notion of the context.

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The * form of Hagalaz comes from the Younger and Armenian rune sets, from everything I've read.

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I'll be sticking to what seems to be an older format for this for the purpose of this thread so I'll not be speaking on or about Galdrs for the most part.

The format I've been finding wherein one is to form the spell is a six-pointed star; essentially the newer form of Hagalaz.

So, my question is, do you think this could have an effect on the casting to have a seventh Rune involved, especially this one, simultaneously in the background and yet over-arching the entire thing?

Granted, this form is supposed to be gentle or benevolent chaos but it is still chaos and it is inherent in the spell.

Then there's the question of the specific format. If nine is a perfected patter then what if one were to use a nine-pointed star to write the spell? Further, nine is the perfected pattern and Hagalaz is the ninth Rune and also Hel's Rune. So, would this mean that if one writes their spell in the nine-point format one is necessarily calling Hel in writing the spell?

 
I think what you are referring to here (with drawing runes on the end of six interlocking lines) is Galdrastafir, a form of Icelandic stave magic.  It can be seen as a form of sigil magic.  These sigils can be drawn using a base that can be the *, or they can use a +, or they can use a single line or other combination of lines.  They can be simple or very complex.

This next bit is my personal take on it:
I think that creating workings like this, the caster takes into their own hands the ability to imbue their creation with the meaning they want.  If I am creating a rune based sigil, and I use a nine pointed crossing at the center, I could imbue it with the qualities of the nine worlds, or it could represent a tripled three which I could use to represent the Norns.  I do not think that simply because there is a representation of nine and that Hagalaz is the ninth rune that I would be invoking Hella with my working (but you could definitely choose to build it that way if that was your intention).
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Re: Rune Magic
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2015, 02:04:41 am »
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The * form of Hagalaz comes from the Younger and Armenian rune sets, from everything I've read.

 
Aha, right you are! I'd forgotten to take the Younger Futhark into account:o. (I believe, though, that your second reference is to the [much more modern - early 20th century] Armanen runes, not Armenian.)

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Re: Rune Magic
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2015, 11:37:26 am »
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Aha, right you are! I'd forgotten to take the Younger Futhark into account:o. (I believe, though, that your second reference is to the [much more modern - early 20th century] Armanen runes, not Armenian.)

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