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Understanding a card
« on: May 04, 2015, 03:57:36 pm »
I had an odd experience a few nights ago and I can't get it sorted out. As I awoke ( I'm prone to hypnagogic and hypnopompic visions,) an image of a tarot card appeared in my mind and I got this feeling of, "Well, does this confirm it for you?"

I went and dug out my Rider-Waite tarot deck and discovered that the card was The Magician. I don't use tarot for divination and my pendulum work gets confused when I get confused, so I don't know what this means. There are tons of sites out there dedicated to tarot but I don't know which ones are best.

I don't know what The Magician card means. Can anyone help me with this? If there needs to be more explanation about my situation first, just let me know.

Thanks!

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Re: Understanding a card
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2015, 04:27:24 pm »
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There are tons of sites out there dedicated to tarot but I don't know which ones are best.

I don't know what The Magician card means. Can anyone help me with this? If there needs to be more explanation about my situation first, just let me know.

Thanks!

 
Here's the page for that card on Joan Bunning's 'Learn Tarot' site, which is a fairly reliable one.

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Re: Understanding a card
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2015, 07:09:59 pm »
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Here's the page for that card on Joan Bunning's 'Learn Tarot' site, which is a fairly reliable one.

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Thanks so much! It's nicely helpful.

On an ever so slight tangent, does anyone know of any connection of Odin or Loki to this card?

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Re: Understanding a card
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2015, 10:42:18 pm »
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Thanks so much! It's nicely helpful.

On an ever so slight tangent, does anyone know of any connection of Odin or Loki to this card?

 
Hmm, interesting question. I know that some people connect Odin with The Hanged Man. Given what I know about Loki (from mythology), I think he definitely COULD be associated with The Magician, particularly in the Marseilles tradition.

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Re: Understanding a card
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2015, 12:05:49 am »
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Thanks so much! It's nicely helpful.

On an ever so slight tangent, does anyone know of any connection of Odin or Loki to this card?

 
The Magician may be my favourite card out of all of em.

And yes, there could indeed be a connection to either of those gods! Let me babble at you about why I think that is!

So, the Magician at heart embodies the application of Will upon the world - the very idea of magic. His hand gestures echo the old axiom 'as above so below' and he clearly has all the traditional tools associated with the elements and all that. So, in a broad sense, the Magician could stand for any god of magic, really.

The Magician has at times also been considered a trickster figure, a charlatan who uses misdirection and sleight of hand. That too fits old One-Eye and the Lie-Smith, no?

Obviously this is all a matter of interpretation, but if you were specifically asking for a sign, well. Could be.

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Re: Understanding a card
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2015, 12:42:12 am »
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Hmm, interesting question. I know that some people connect Odin with The Hanged Man. Given what I know about Loki (from mythology), I think he definitely COULD be associated with The Magician, particularly in the Marseilles tradition.

 
Cool and interesting. I'll have to look up pics of the Marseilles card to see what impressions I can get from it. :)

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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2015, 12:55:33 am »
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The Magician may be my favourite card out of all of em.

And yes, there could indeed be a connection to either of those gods! Let me babble at you about why I think that is!

So, the Magician at heart embodies the application of Will upon the world - the very idea of magic. His hand gestures echo the old axiom 'as above so below' and he clearly has all the traditional tools associated with the elements and all that. So, in a broad sense, the Magician could stand for any god of magic, really.

The Magician has at times also been considered a trickster figure, a charlatan who uses misdirection and sleight of hand. That too fits old One-Eye and the Lie-Smith, no?

Obviously this is all a matter of interpretation, but if you were specifically asking for a sign, well. Could be.

 

Thanks for all the information. I've been really worrying about this, because frankly, Loki frightens me and Odin terrifies me. Particularly as a pair. I was thinking I was finally ready to answer Odin and when I did I got Loki. Not instead. As well. And now I don't know what to do. I'm kinda scared and very apprehensive.

The card was the confirmation that I needed, I suppose. Particularly because I had not only to work to figure it out, but because there was so much meaning behind it and a couple of really weird coincidences involved. (Not only that but I just spent the whole day walking around muttering "As above, so below." Then you quote it to me as well. Lol.)

Thank you very much for babbling at me. Much appreciated. And if you can think of more that might be relevant or interesting then feel free to babble more!

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Re: Understanding a card
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2015, 07:17:18 pm »
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Cool and interesting. I'll have to look up pics of the Marseilles card to see what impressions I can get from it. :)

 
Here is a site that compares several Marseilles-style decks.

(I'll note that 'impressions from the picture' is a fairly modern reading approach, and doesn't generally apply well to pre-Rider-Waite-Smith decks. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do so in this case - this seems like an occasion where it could well be useful! - but it's worth keeping in mind that Marseilles-style wasn't designed for that approach, so it's likely to have differences for you, compared to applying it to more modern decks.)

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Re: Understanding a card
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2015, 08:40:39 pm »
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Here is a site that compares several Marseilles-style decks.

(I'll note that 'impressions from the picture' is a fairly modern reading approach, and doesn't generally apply well to pre-Rider-Waite-Smith decks. That doesn't mean you shouldn't do so in this case - this seems like an occasion where it could well be useful! - but it's worth keeping in mind that Marseilles-style wasn't designed for that approach, so it's likely to have differences for you, compared to applying it to more modern decks.)

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Thank you, Sunflower! I don't know enough about tarot in any form do do anything other than get impressions from the image. I was just curious as to what kind of difference there would be in comparison to the Rider-Waite from my vision and the Marseilles imagery. Because I'm not sure why that vision was given to me and why tarot was used to begin with. It made me feel a bit foolish to have to hunt through a bunch of unfamiliar cards and then try to find out what it meant.

Very interesting, though!

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Re: Understanding a card
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2015, 01:19:44 pm »
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Thank you, Sunflower! I don't know enough about tarot in any form do do anything other than get impressions from the image. I was just curious as to what kind of difference there would be in comparison to the Rider-Waite from my vision and the Marseilles imagery. Because I'm not sure why that vision was given to me and why tarot was used to begin with. It made me feel a bit foolish to have to hunt through a bunch of unfamiliar cards and then try to find out what it meant.

Very interesting, though!

 
An excellent reference book is called The Rabbi's Tarot.  Not sure if it's still in print or not.  Very good with individual major arcana.

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