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has anyone ever had their magic bound?
« on: May 01, 2015, 01:57:04 am »
sooo i mighta accidentally joined a coven. i met a new friend who turns out is a coven leader and i got really excited about it. he said i could join and i was all up for it til he started talkin about some of the beliefs and rules of the coven. theres a bunch im pretty iffy with since im a pretty gray witch and the coven seems snow white. but the main thing that i didnt like is that they said it was their responsibility to bind witches they thought were dangerous. i was kinda like "mmhmm sure ok. tell it to the charmed ones."

i never really thought of magic as somethin that could be taken away so it didnt bother me at first. but i dont actually know anythin about it. has anyone here ever bound someones magic? or had their own bound? and is there a way to unbind or protect yurself from being bound?

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Re: has anyone ever had their magic bound?
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2015, 07:50:15 am »
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but the main thing that i didnt like is that they said it was their responsibility to bind witches they thought were dangerous. i was kinda like "mmhmm sure ok. tell it to the charmed ones."

Right. I'd probably have laughed and rolled my eyes. Trying to bind magic they way they sound like they are talking about would be like trying to stop the wind.  It might be possible to bind someone to not use magic -- just like you might be able to bind them to not drink coffee -- but that is something much different from binding magic.
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Re: has anyone ever had their magic bound?
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2015, 09:33:45 am »
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has anyone here ever bound someones magic? or had their own bound? and is there a way to unbind or protect yurself from being bound?

I was able to initiate out of body experiences, made the giant mistake of telling my sister, who told her Wiccan friend, who did the thing and they both told me that they did the thing. In hindsight, it should have seriously skeeved me out that I did not request either of them to do the thing, but at that moment I was just glad that something had distracted my sister from using my deviant sexual orientation as some sort of liberal street cred and outing me to everybody like my life was some trendy accessory. So, at least she got that way about something like the paranormal, which I wasn't so precious and sensitive about. But she does get that way fairly often.

Back on topic, out-of-body experiences were already a challenging sort of meditation for me to undertake, so I thought, well, if I could initiate an out-of-body experience even with a binding, then I would be able to do so under any conditions once the binding was removed or wore off or something. It was just like adding barbells to lift weights with. So, I kept trying. I've never been able to do it as easily and regularly as I used to, but it did happen two or three times since then.

My sister's Wiccan friend had mentioned something about using our genetic information for the sympathetic magic portion, and then using my belief in his power, which I had a lot of because he always spoke so authoritatively even though so much of his craft was supposed to be secret and he kept it so.

Eventually I just got my own ideas about how it all works, and I can only guess that changed the wavelength so I'm not quite so much under any thrall they can construct for me, although they might not have bothered.
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Re: has anyone ever had their magic bound?
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2015, 03:09:56 am »
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Right. I'd probably have laughed and rolled my eyes. Trying to bind magic they way they sound like they are talking about would be like trying to stop the wind.  It might be possible to bind someone to not use magic -- just like you might be able to bind them to not drink coffee -- but that is something much different from binding magic.

haha ok well i guess i was right then and i wont worry about anythin C: either way i got so many protection spells going on anyway im like a freakin fortress. thanks!

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I was able to initiate out of body experiences, made the giant mistake of telling my sister, who told her Wiccan friend, who did the thing and they both told me that they did the thing. In hindsight, it should have seriously skeeved me out that I did not request either of them to do the thing, but at that moment I was just glad that something had distracted my sister from using my deviant sexual orientation as some sort of liberal street cred and outing me to everybody like my life was some trendy accessory. So, at least she got that way about something like the paranormal, which I wasn't so precious and sensitive about. But she does get that way fairly often.

Back on topic, out-of-body experiences were already a challenging sort of meditation for me to undertake, so I thought, well, if I could initiate an out-of-body experience even with a binding, then I would be able to do so under any conditions once the binding was removed or wore off or something. It was just like adding barbells to lift weights with. So, I kept trying. I've never been able to do it as easily and regularly as I used to, but it did happen two or three times since then.

My sister's Wiccan friend had mentioned something about using our genetic information for the sympathetic magic portion, and then using my belief in his power, which I had a lot of because he always spoke so authoritatively even though so much of his craft was supposed to be secret and he kept it so.

Eventually I just got my own ideas about how it all works, and I can only guess that changed the wavelength so I'm not quite so much under any thrall they can construct for me, although they might not have bothered.

so you did get your magic bound then? and it worked? are you out of it now or still a little tied up? sounds like it coulda been some kinda psychology dealio. like how you believing in their power made it work
why did they bind you in the first place tho? they sound like wads geez.

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Re: has anyone ever had their magic bound?
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2015, 06:03:19 am »
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so you did get your magic bound then? and it worked? are you out of it now or still a little tied up? sounds like it coulda been some kinda psychology dealio. like how you believing in their power made it work


Yes to all questions (the binding wore off, the effects of the binding lasted--if that makes any sense), and I agree with that last bit. That's why it's part of my paradigm of magic now to meta: What are the components of belief? What buffers and supports it, what provides a keystone so that it's not mere contrivance of the mind but a deeply-rooted belief? That's what I investigate now.

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why did they bind you in the first place tho? they sound like wads geez.

 
It was ostensibly for my own good, but in hindsight and my opinion now is that they were colossal wads. :p

While the effects of people's actions can be downright dastardly, by my unfortunate experience the creepiest thing is that the intentions are always good.
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Re: has anyone ever had their magic bound?
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2015, 10:45:07 pm »
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sounds like it coulda been some kinda psychology dealio. like how you believing in their power made it work
why did they bind you in the first place tho? they sound like wads geez.


This bit sounds to me like it'd probably also apply to your own experience, Olie - all psychological manipulation, little or no actual binding.
 
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While the effects of people's actions can be downright dastardly, by my unfortunate experience the creepiest thing is that the intentions are always good.

 
I'm thinking this bit also applies to the people you encountered, Olie. I'm sure that they feel ever so virtuous, going about being the ones who decide who's 'dangerous', and acting to address that - but to me that looks creepy and arrogant, and likely to have very dastardly effects.

Though I doubt the dastardly effects would include much actual and effective binding, as Randall notes - mainly, they'd be harmful because of the psychological manipulation.

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Re: has anyone ever had their magic bound?
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2015, 07:51:49 am »
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Though I doubt the dastardly effects would include much actual and effective binding, as Randall notes - mainly, they'd be harmful because of the psychological manipulation.

I tend to forget about this type of stuff as psychological manipulation because I'm too busy rolling my eyes and thinking their claim is silly to be affected by it as psychological manipulation. Someone once put the "Chain Curse of Death" on me and my reaction to them telling me this was to roll my eyes and think he was an idiot. The Chain Curse of Death is from medieval grimoires. It's misnamed as it is used to threaten uncooperative demons not to kill people. While it probably was intended as psychological manipulation the only thing it did was manipulate me into thinking the guy was as stupid as he sounded.
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Re: has anyone ever had their magic bound?
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2015, 10:15:47 pm »
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I tend to forget about this type of stuff as psychological manipulation because I'm too busy rolling my eyes and thinking their claim is silly to be affected by it as psychological manipulation. Someone once put the "Chain Curse of Death" on me and my reaction to them telling me this was to roll my eyes and think he was an idiot. The Chain Curse of Death is from medieval grimoires. It's misnamed as it is used to threaten uncooperative demons not to kill people. While it probably was intended as psychological manipulation the only thing it did was manipulate me into thinking the guy was as stupid as he sounded.

 
I have to agree, it seems like a form of psychological manipulation most likely affecting the subconscious mind. If you're really worried about it, seek a friend of the craft out, and have them perform a smudging ritual, and curse breaker. But in all honesty, if you can still manipulate your energy, you can still use magic.
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Re: has anyone ever had their magic bound?
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2015, 06:24:03 am »
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sooo i mighta accidentally joined a coven. i met a new friend who turns out is a coven leader and i got really excited about it. he said i could join and i was all up for it til he started talkin about some of the beliefs and rules of the coven. theres a bunch im pretty iffy with since im a pretty gray witch and the coven seems snow white. but the main thing that i didnt like is that they said it was their responsibility to bind witches they thought were dangerous. i was kinda like "mmhmm sure ok. tell it to the charmed ones."

i never really thought of magic as somethin that could be taken away so it didnt bother me at first. but i dont actually know anythin about it. has anyone here ever bound someones magic? or had their own bound? and is there a way to unbind or protect yurself from being bound?

 
How do you accidentally join a coven in the first place?

I once did energy work on someone without consent and ended up in a weird link and felt her emotions for days. It was horrible. I've never done anything like that since. I was very young and stupid.

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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2015, 07:52:32 am »
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How do you accidentally join a coven in the first place?

I've seen people so desperate to have a coven and be a high priest or high priestess that merely asking them about their group had them making you a member on the spot.
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2015, 01:34:26 am »
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I've seen people so desperate to have a coven and be a high priest or high priestess that merely asking them about their group had them making you a member on the spot.

 
Wow! People like that really need to self analyze. Especially if they start making threats against anyone who might disagree with them.

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Re: has anyone ever had their magic bound?
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2015, 09:25:35 am »
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sooo i mighta accidentally joined a coven. i met a new friend who turns out is a coven leader and i got really excited about it. he said i could join and i was all up for it til he started talkin about some of the beliefs and rules of the coven. theres a bunch im pretty iffy with since im a pretty gray witch and the coven seems snow white. but the main thing that i didnt like is that they said it was their responsibility to bind witches they thought were dangerous. i was kinda like "mmhmm sure ok. tell it to the charmed ones."

i never really thought of magic as somethin that could be taken away so it didnt bother me at first. but i dont actually know anythin about it. has anyone here ever bound someones magic? or had their own bound? and is there a way to unbind or protect yurself from being bound?

 
They tried but i do not think it worked.
I dont even know if it CAn work.

Probably only in charmed.....

I will ask my BFF Barbas. :dwink:

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