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Natib Qadish
« on: August 30, 2014, 02:36:26 pm »
I have just ordered a book on this form of paganism which is Canaanite Paganism. Just wondered if anyone had any experience of this? Could offer advice or guidance as to blending some of these beliefs with Buddhism and wicca or if they are incompatible.

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Re: Natib Qadish
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2014, 07:24:34 pm »
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I have just ordered a book on this form of paganism which is Canaanite Paganism. Just wondered if anyone had any experience of this? Could offer advice or guidance as to blending some of these beliefs with Buddhism and wicca or if they are incompatible.

 
Sorry, I don't have any helpful info for you. Maybe another member will.

I do hope that after you've had a chance to read the book you'll share with us what you've learned. I'd love to hear about it.
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Re: Natib Qadish
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2014, 08:07:56 pm »
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I have just ordered a book on this form of paganism which is Canaanite Paganism. Just wondered if anyone had any experience of this? Could offer advice or guidance as to blending some of these beliefs with Buddhism and wicca or if they are incompatible.

I don't have any experience with that exact system, but I do work extensively with the Caananite pantheon. I can't speak for the system, but I can speak for MY experiences of the Caananite gods.

That said, the specific group, at least from a cursory poking around on the internet, seems to be reconstructionalist in a way my experiences aren't, so I can hardly speak for the style of practice. Hopefully you can take something from my experiences anyway.

Ok, disclaimers out of the way...

I've never had problems integrating work with Caananite gods with other practices. El and Asherah (chief god and goddess of the pantheon) at the "top" of their heap so to speak, can integrate with Wiccan thoughts, in a way, but understand it'll require flexibility with both paradigms.

The philosophical portions of Buddhism mesh just fine, but similar mental flexibility would be required to integrate Buddhist cosmology. Personally, I would draw parallels between the various aspects of the Buddha and the Baalim, but I'll admit that I don't know a whole lot about Buddhism, so that's just my initial impression.

Adding that the specific path is more reconstructionalist or revivalist than mine YMMV, but I've actually found the Caananite pantheon to be surprisingly flexible.

I'm hardly an expert though, but hopefully this gets conversation started.
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Re: Natib Qadish
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2014, 09:01:08 pm »
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The philosophical portions of Buddhism mesh just fine, but similar mental flexibility would be required to integrate Buddhist cosmology. Personally, I would draw parallels between the various aspects of the Buddha and the Baalim, but I'll admit that I don't know a whole lot about Buddhism, so that's just my initial impression.

 
I'd love to hear more about how you think these parallel. I understand that you don't consider yourself an expert in Buddhism, but I don't know enough about the Baalim to draw it out for myself.
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Re: Natib Qadish
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2014, 02:35:45 pm »
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I'd love to hear more about how you think these parallel. I understand that you don't consider yourself an expert in Buddhism, but I don't know enough about the Baalim to draw it out for myself.
Mind you, this is MY incorporation of a belief/practice that didn't exist for the ancient Caananites, at least as far as I can tell. I draw a lot from them, including quite a few aspects of my personal pantheon, but I'm hardly a revivalist or reconstructionalist.

The Baalim could be (very loosely, Hebrew is my magical language, but I can't quite be said to speak it) translated as Lords or possibly Lords and Ladies. Usually it referred mostly to local gods. There's hints at some of them having once been human, but I can't quite verify that for sure.

When I was liking for a place to put concepts like ascended masters, saints, demigods and the like, my mind kept going back to the story of Prince Aquat (Akkat, ect, different letters). Aquat kind of... merges with or becomes an agricultural Baal towards the end of the story. I went to the source, so I did the translation myself, so I'm sure it's pretty sloppy.

It was enough for me to put acended masters (which is my understanding of the Buddha) in with the Baalim.

The other option is to not lump them together, but I think due to foreign gods  becoming Baal of the (insert foreign culture here), and my parallel with ascended masters, it would be enough that that's where I'd put them.
"Let it be that state of manyhood bound and loathing. So with thy all; thou hast no right but to do thy will. Do that and no other shall say nay. For pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is in every way perfect."

AL 1:42-44

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Re: Natib Qadish
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2014, 02:37:48 pm »
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I'd love to hear more about how you think these parallel. I understand that you don't consider yourself an expert in Buddhism, but I don't know enough about the Baalim to draw it out for myself.

As revivalist as Natib seems to be, it may not fit for the OP, but without the revivalist aspects, I probably wouldn't worry about integration that much
"Let it be that state of manyhood bound and loathing. So with thy all; thou hast no right but to do thy will. Do that and no other shall say nay. For pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is in every way perfect."

AL 1:42-44

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Re: Natib Qadish
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2014, 02:45:14 pm »
Quote from: Hipporadish;157701
I have just ordered a book on this form of paganism which is Canaanite Paganism. Just wondered if anyone had any experience of this? Could offer advice or guidance as to blending some of these beliefs with Buddhism and wicca or if they are incompatible.

 
Forum member Celeste/OpenHands (I don't remember which was her second name, nor if she changed again) is one of the movers in Natib Qadish.  You might search her name and look for her posts.

It's possible it's her book you're bought.  She blogs at Kina'ani.
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